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Gummee! 07-17-2010 03:49 PM

Hey Steve:

I know its too late, but if yer riding on the road, a cyclocross bike woulda been a better bet. Mine takes up to about a 40c tire and down to 23c (on it now) for the road.

The 29er is a mtn bike. If yer gonna ride it mostly on the road, yer prolly gonna get frustrated. (when you do, try a smaller (road sized) cassette first! you'll prolly need it sooner rather than later)

My $.02 being a bicycle mechanic an all...

M

Gummee! 07-17-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierce
sigh, probably has all kinda weird sizes on it, like 26x1-3/8" wheels which don't mount modern 26" tires, and if you change to 700c or 26" wheels, the brakes may well not reach. I believe 590mm was the common size on brit 3-speeds, while '700c' stuff is 622mm and 26" mtn bike stuff is 559mm.

If the headset is a standard diameter, you can replace the headset to use a conventional 1" threaded fork. otherwise,, you're going to need to find a old british fork, good luck.

can't say I remember Phillips brakes, Weinmann were pretty common on old bikes like that. IMHO, I'd leave it a 3-speed and as original as possible.

You can still get Schwinn and 26x1 3/8 tires thru the LBS. Don't let that dissuade you. :nod

AFA the rest? Clean it up and ride it!

M

notmike 07-17-2010 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducnut
So, what year and model is it?

I had a BSA given to me. I'm guessing from the 60's(?). It's a lugged steel frame and fork. The fork is bent as are the crank arms, spindle and front rim. Has a Sturmey Archer AW 3-speed hub and rims. Michelin Roadster 1-3/8" tires. BSA head badge that's riveted on and BSA decal on the seattube. Originally dark blue in color. The stem and handlebar are one-piece. They, along with the crank, are from Raleigh Industries. The brakes and levers have no markings, but, appear to be Phillips. The seatpost came right out and is 1". Has pump pegs. Missing some of the shifting mechanism from the rear hub. Has Rocket brand fenders that aren't salvageable. All the hardware is Whitworth. I have confirmed that it is a Raleigh built bike. Frame number is stamped into the seatpost/toptube lug--#807014.

Sheldon Brown's site has a lot of info, but, nothing on specific models and years for the BSA. I was thinking of piece-ing it together into a coaster brake townie. I can get cheapie wheels, crankset, and fenders. I'll need to find the specific fork, as this thing has weird threading. I'm not sure what to do with it. Ideas?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1108.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1125.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1119.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1116.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1118.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1121.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1124.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1126.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...s/IMG_1123.jpg

Cool bike, especially those cranks, but I would be hesitant to ride that thing more than 5 feet. Kinda hard to tell from these pics , but it looks like the down tube is buckled as well as the fork being wrecked. Check the underside of the down tube up near the head tube for ripples before spending any money on the thing.

ducnut 07-17-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notmike
Kinda hard to tell from these pics , but it looks like the down tube is buckled as well as the fork being wrecked. Check the underside of the down tube up near the head tube for ripples before spending any money on the thing.

I think that's an illusion. The lug, combined with excess layers of paint, makes it look tweaked. Eyeballing the headtube to the seattube, it looks parallel in that plane. Once I get the bracketry off the downtube, I'll lay a straightedge on it.

According to Sheldon Brown's site, I should be able to retrofit a fork onto this frame, so long as I get the cones and bearings with the retro fork. I have a recycler, a block away. I'll scrounge around there, next week. As for the crank, I'll have to call Harris Cyclery for some ideas. They have a retrofit, but, I want to know cost before I do anything with this bike.

Gummee! 07-17-2010 06:52 PM

In theory its an English BB so pretty much anything'll go in. :nod AFA the cranks themselves, they're prolly fine to ride as long as you remember that when this was built, it wasn't built for honking up big hills. :nono Flat, relatively easy riding: ie: back and forth to work.

You can sink a ton of $$ into old bikes and still have a worthless buncha metal tubes put together. :nod Do this one cause ya want it/love it, not for resale. :nah

M

pierce 07-17-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducnut
I think that's an illusion. The lug, combined with excess layers of paint, makes it look tweaked. Eyeballing the headtube to the seattube, it looks parallel in that plane. Once I get the bracketry off the downtube, I'll lay a straightedge on it.

According to Sheldon Brown's site, I should be able to retrofit a fork onto this frame, so long as I get the cones and bearings with the retro fork. I have a recycler, a block away. I'll scrounge around there, next week. As for the crank, I'll have to call Harris Cyclery for some ideas. They have a retrofit, but, I want to know cost before I do anything with this bike.

I'd leave the crank stock, just repack the BB (and every other bearing)

but the rims are scrunched, that will be the hardest thing to find.

MookieBlaylock 07-18-2010 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steverino
700x28c Bontranger road tires install on 29er wheels just fine. :deal

mountain bike with road tires is too much fun. Floating over potholes at 40 mph:thumb

ducnut 07-18-2010 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gummee!
In theory its an English BB so pretty much anything'll go in. :nod AFA the cranks themselves, they're prolly fine to ride as long as you remember that when this was built, it wasn't built for honking up big hills. :nono Flat, relatively easy riding: ie: back and forth to work.

The crank and spindle are clearly bent. I can use a Japanese BB, but, will have to retain the BSA bearing cups, because they're 26TPI just like the headset. Then, it'll be a matter of finding cheap arms, recycled or otherwise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gummee!
You can sink a ton of $$ into old bikes and still have a worthless buncha metal tubes put together. :nod Do this one cause ya want it/love it, not for resale. :nah

I have no emotional attachment to this bike. And, even a mint one doesn't bring more than a few hundred bucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierce
I'd leave the crank stock, just repack the BB (and every other bearing)

Again, the crank and spindle are bent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierce
but the rims are scrunched, that will be the hardest thing to find.

I can lace and true wheels. And the rims, though they won't be an exact match, are available.

I have determined that this bike is from between '62-'65. There's one component on it that was used only during this period by Raleigh.

Steverino 07-18-2010 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MookieBlaylock
mountain bike with road tires is too much fun. Floating over potholes at 40 mph:thumb

Yep, just finished 40 miles in three hours on it with the new tires. Works like a champ!

6 flags!

pierce 07-18-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MookieBlaylock
mountain bike with road tires is too much fun. Floating over potholes at 40 mph:thumb

I've been having lots of fun on my 700x40C homebrew hybrid which is almost a road bike with nearly mtn fat wheels. Interesting, that while my tires say 40C on their printing, the molded ISO size says 42-622 which implies they are actually 42c ? anyways, at 50PSI they both handle my weight nicely and ride pretty darn good over rough terrain. The more I ride this thing, the more I realize knobbies are overrated, a good pair of slicks will take you over all kinda terrain as long as its hard pack or not too steep.

gonna go look at a taller frame today, a Specialized Crossroads which had both wheels bent in an accident. It may be an older one with a steel frame, but that means more of my bits and pieces will fit.

pierce 07-18-2010 09:22 PM

Found a $35 wheel-less late 90s Specialized Crossroads on craigslist for its frame/forks, and swap around a whole lotta parts, using only the frame/fork and stem....
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/TE...0/IMG_7097.JPG
(k, I switched the cranks after I took that picture)

I'm gonna give it my mandatory red paint job... the Mtn style triple dérailleur seems to be shifting the compact road double just fine, once I got it adjusted. I can't use my 105 front because this frame is top pull and mine is bottom pull. I need a top pull road dérailleur, either for brazeon (I have a clamp/adapter for these) or 28.6mm steel seat tube. or just keep using the piece-of-tin-crap Acera, it works just fine :)

anyways, much better frame size for me. pretty generic taiwan tig steel circa late 90s, same as the other.

my Michelin City 40C fatties (they say 42-622 inside) on wide 700c rims barely clears the chainstay brace and is really tight on the chainstays. plenty of clearance on top and forks, I probably should find some 38's and leave these City's on the diamondback when I sell it. if I put fenders on this bike, I'd have to cut them just above the chainstay and I can't use a bolt unless I use like 32c

Off the grid 07-18-2010 11:48 PM

Nice ride as usual, pierce. :thumb

Did 10 miles today with the wife. Felt great. Really starting to leave her in the dust, and she is noticing. :huh I'm not even winded or tired after our short rides anymore. I might have to get another road bike. :D She asked me why I don't train and start racing MTN bike again, and my answer was simple....I used to ride because I loved it, I loved the sport. Now I ride to stay alive, to stay in shape....so I can ride dirt bikes. :evil

Might be a good spot to pimp my Rock Shox Judy XC that I'm selling.

rajflyboy 07-19-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierce
Found a $35 wheel-less late 90s Specialized Crossroads on craigslist for its frame/forks, and swap around a whole lotta parts, using only the frame/fork and stem....
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/TE...0/IMG_7097.JPG
(k, I switched the cranks after I took that picture)

I'm gonna give it my mandatory red paint job... the Mtn style triple dérailleur seems to be shifting the compact road double just fine, once I got it adjusted. I can't use my 105 front because this frame is top pull and mine is bottom pull. I need a top pull road dérailleur, either for brazeon (I have a clamp/adapter for these) or 28.6mm steel seat tube. or just keep using the piece-of-tin-crap Acera, it works just fine :)

anyways, much better frame size for me. pretty generic taiwan tig steel circa late 90s, same as the other.

my Michelin City 40C fatties (they say 42-622 inside) on wide 700c rims barely clears the chainstay brace and is really tight on the chainstays. plenty of clearance on top and forks, I probably should find some 38's and leave these City's on the diamondback when I sell it. if I put fenders on this bike, I'd have to cut them just above the chainstay and I can't use a bolt unless I use like 32c

Nice Find!!

pierce 07-19-2010 08:04 PM

decided I had to get a picture with the right cranks on it...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/TE...0/IMG_7099.JPG

note, btw, those plastic pedals are just temporary. I'm thinking of going with MKS track pedals with towclips but haven't quite made up my mind yet. I want something I can ride in sandals (keens with the toe cap) and I think toeclips would work.

MapMaster 07-19-2010 09:34 PM

Holy spokes Batman!
I don't normally do a general perusal of Jo Momma postings, but I was searching for a thread mentioned in another post and stumbled onto this topic. Normally I read through prior postings, but no way am I going over the past 15,390 here. Especially since the majority of what I've sampled all seem to be written in Greek. I was into bicycling big time as a teen (a looong time ago) so much so that my mom got me a subscription to Cycle World when I was 14 :lol3.
Got back into pedaling the rail-trails a few years ago as an exercise replacement for the volleyball that my arthritic knees forced me to give up. I was vaguely aware of mountain bikes, but trigger shifters and all the variety of bike frames now had me feeling like Rip Van Winkle after the alarm clock went off. (I had a first edition copy of Sloane's Complete Book of Bicycling, I shudder to think of how out-dated it would be now, and how much it would be worth if I had held onto it.)

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I did my first century yesterday. A complete transit of the Great Allegheny Passage from Duquesne to Cumberland - 138 miles on a 31 pound Raleigh hybrid.
Today I'm a bit tired. :evil


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