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Askel 08-31-2010 11:09 AM

That custom epic/carousel stuff is neat, but you don't need to spend near that much. Here's a thread over on bikepacking.net on doing it on the cheap: http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/ind...c,982.msg12962

Details on my setup are there.

You'll find you constantly want to adjust and tune what you carry, how much of it, and where on the bike you carry it.

I wouldn't spend any big bucks on a custom bag until you know what you want.

I know I probably won't ever buy a seatpost bag or any custom frame bag based on my experiences.

While panniers and bikepacking don't usually work out all that well, racks make for awesome places to strap stuff and don't interfere with pedaling.

Bimble 08-31-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askel
That custom epic/carousel stuff is neat, but you don't need to spend near that much. Here's a thread over on bikepacking.net on doing it on the cheap: http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/ind...c,982.msg12962

Details on my setup are there...

Are you still looking for a tent? I'm veeeery tempted by this one: http://www.rei.com/product/798685

Askel 08-31-2010 11:53 AM

I'm still kind of undecided- lots of great one man tents like that for under $100, but that particular model is not freestanding.

A freestanding design usually adds about a pound and more difficult-to-pack poles.

I like the advantages of a freestanding design, but I'm not sure how bad I *need* it. :dunno

Doesn't matter though. One more summer bikepacking trip left for this season and I'm sticking with what I got.

pierce 08-31-2010 02:19 PM

re: small light tents for 1, i've been quite happy with my Kelty Teton 2. you only need to stake out the vestibule of the fly, the tent otherwise supports itself entirely. I've used a rock to anchor the vestibule's tie line when the ground hasn't held stakes. packs really small, and its quite light. came with a stuffsack big enough that when I cut a custom footprint for it from PVC, it fit in the stuffsack too, so I can roll it all up together. has aluminum poles that use clips rather than annoying sleeves.

http://www.kelty.com/images/product/medium/110_1_.jpghttp://www.kelty.com/images/product/medium/110_2_.jpg

stays quite dry in heavy extended downpours, too.

re: panniers, I'm curious why you said they don't work. I used them extensively in the 70s/80s when I bikepacked, balancing weight on front and rear racks, they kept the weight low on the frame. yeah, those little one wheel aluminum trailers look neat, too.

Mr Head 08-31-2010 03:04 PM

I have a Hammerhead 2, but it is pretty big. It works for motorcycle camping but seems heavy for backpacking though if I were going with my wife we'd just split up the load. I don't think I'd bother with it on a bicycle though. That off in the back of beyond photo sure is appealing though. Maybe a bivy sack, with a rainfly just in case.
My preference has always been for a 3-season tent for waterproofness and keeping the wind out.

Askel 08-31-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pierce
re: panniers, I'm curious why you said they don't work. I used them extensively in the 70s/80s when I bikepacked, balancing weight on front and rear racks, they kept the weight low on the frame. yeah, those little one wheel aluminum trailers look neat, too.


I used them in "Version 1.0" of my bikepacking setup.

http://www.feep.org/gallery/d/12996-2/SANY0572.jpg

They flop around too much.

They stick out too much.

They encourage me to take way too much shit. :lol3

Sure, I probably could find a pannier setup that addresses all these shortcomings, but a $5 stuff sack cinched down to the rack does the same for very little money. :D

I still use panniers extensively for "regular" touring though.

http://www.feep.org/gallery/d/12732-2/SANY0483.jpg

Askel 08-31-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by k7
Thanks! I check that thread and consider your advice. Much appreciated.

Looking back though, I noticed this was for a Fargo. Unless you do anything really wacky, I don't think you'll have a problem selling off custom bags for that frame if you decide they don't work.

Probably not a huge market for custom framebags for a Kona Hoss though. :D

k7 08-31-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askel
That custom epic/carousel stuff is neat, but you don't need to spend near that much. Here's a thread over on bikepacking.net on doing it on the cheap: http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/ind...c,982.msg12962

Details on my setup are there.

You'll find you constantly want to adjust and tune what you carry, how much of it, and where on the bike you carry it.

I wouldn't spend any big bucks on a custom bag until you know what you want.

I know I probably won't ever buy a seatpost bag or any custom frame bag based on my experiences.

While panniers and bikepacking don't usually work out all that well, racks make for awesome places to strap stuff and don't interfere with pedaling.

Thanks! I check that thread and consider your advice. Much appreciated.

Edit: posted a reply in your thread. :evil

k7 08-31-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askel
Looking back though, I noticed this was for a Fargo. Unless you do anything really wacky, I don't think you'll have a problem selling off custom bags for that frame if you decide they don't work.

Probably not a huge market for custom framebags for a Kona Hoss though. :D

True. I'll probably go with a framebag and a handlebar bag that wraps around a dry bag. Combine that with the rack and topcase that I already have. Cheap/cheap.

pierce 08-31-2010 06:21 PM

i still have an eclipse pannier. has the aluminum rod that fits in the channel on the eclipse rack system from circa 1980, not made in a long time. I also have an eclipse 'basket' (folding frame with nylon mesh). don;t have the other panneir or basket of the original sets :photog

I'm thinking of installing Jandd hooks on them, and rigging a bungi for the bottom.
http://www.jandd.com/ProdImages/WebS...raps/Jhook.jpghttp://www.jandd.com/ProdImages/WebS.../bun3thumb.jpg

$7 worth of hardware per pack.:evil plus $7 shipping, :photog

JohnBryer 08-31-2010 07:21 PM

I did the Little Cottonwood Canyon hill climb this weekend. 10 miles, 8-10% grade the whole way. I think it's time for a better set of wheels for climbing.

Any suggestions for a great set of climbing wheels?

pierce 08-31-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnBryer
I did the Little Cottonwood Canyon hill climb this weekend. 10 miles, 8-10% grade the whole way. I think it's time for a better set of wheels for climbing.

Any suggestions for a great set of climbing wheels?

it ain't the wheels, its the legs and lungs :)

ducnut 08-31-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pierce
it ain't the wheels, its the legs and lungs :)

^^^ +1

And, your weight, the bike's weight, reality, etc. :lol3

JohnBryer 08-31-2010 07:57 PM

Lot of smart asses here. How about if you don't have any advice you just :stfu

I don't ride a KLR. I'd like to help stimulate the economy a bit.

pierce 08-31-2010 08:00 PM

can't forget the gears. lower gear takes longer but you can save your strength.

right now, I'm running a 34:28 lowest gear w/ 170mm cranks and a 700x38 wheel. I need it to get my out of shape 220 lbs up the 1 mile hill I live on. I'm way out of shape for any more climbing than that after a 15-25 mile run around the flats below me.

my old road bike has a 42:24 low. I'll get there again.... some day.


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