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Mr Head 09-28-2011 05:53 AM

How tough is the riding on sand with that bike? My old mtb tucks the front instantly. About one half a crank.

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Originally Posted by dirtdadx (Post 16952206)
They are Fat Bikes, Snow Bikes, Sand Bikes, etc., but down here in San Clemente, I call mine a Surf Bike...


ducnut 09-28-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Head (Post 16953592)
How tough is the riding on sand with that bike? My old mtb tucks the front instantly. About one half a crank.

You can read a ton more here.

There was an article in Adventure Cycling Association's magazine on a couple of guys who had rode around an Alaskan fjord using only fatbikes and inflatables, along the shore. It was pretty intriguing.

dirtdadx 09-28-2011 11:52 AM

Flotation over sand/snow is what the bike and tires are all about with bikes like this. You can float over the top of sand with no problem. Don't get the wrong impressions though. With human power levels (1/3 - 1/4 hp sustained) you can't climb sand dunes or ride long distances over super deep loose sand all day. I can usually descend across the dry sand to the wet shoreline, and when I am done along the shore, climb up the sand to get to a local road. It can also handle piles of big loose round wet rocks like you find along the shore, gravel along train tracks, etc. with no problem.

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 16954211)
You can read a ton more here.

There was an article in Adventure Cycling Association's magazine on a couple of guys who had rode around an Alaskan fjord using only fatbikes and inflatables, along the shore. It was pretty intriguing.


fullmonte 09-28-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtdadx (Post 16956217)
Flotation over sand/snow is what the bike and tires are all about with bikes like this. You can float over the top of sand with no problem. Don't get the wrong impressions though. With human power levels (1/3 - 1/4 hp sustained) you can't climb sand dunes or ride long distances over super deep loose sand all day. I can usually descend across the dry sand to the wet shoreline, and when I am done along the shore, climb up the sand to get to a local road. It can also handle piles of big loose round wet rocks like you find along the shore, gravel along train tracks, etc. with no problem.

Cool vid. Did you ever get out of granny first or did it just seem slow because of the camera? I wish I had been riding one of those during the sandy sections for the 24hrs of Moab when I did it in 2003. That hike-a-bike stuff got old in a hurry.:knary

dirtdadx 09-28-2011 01:54 PM

I am usually in one of the 3 or 4 smallest gears. I have a 20T small cog in the front, but the tires make the overall ratio higher, so 20T on this is more like 22T on a regular MTB. Unless you are on very fine sand that is just the right wetness, the speeds are pretty slow. I will probably post some more vids, there are sections of the beach that are much faster, rockier, etc.

I did 24Hours of Moab in 2000 (2 man team) and there were a couple of sand pits, but it was not bad. That was long before the Pugsley was introduced and fatbikes went mainstream.


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Originally Posted by fullmonte (Post 16956792)
Cool vid. Did you ever get out of granny first or did it just seem slow because of the camera? I wish I had been riding one of those during the sandy sections for the 24hrs of Moab when I did it in 2003. That hike-a-bike stuff got old in a hurry.:knary


dolomoto 09-28-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 16948924)
That's a great article. I did that climb in the early 80's and there's no way on God's green earth that I could have done it without a triple. As I recall, we rode a loop out of Vogel State Park and did the ride up to Brasstown Bald was an option to the loop itself. There was a bicycle club out of Atlanta that used to sponsor weekend rides and camping trips all over northern GA.

That area between Unicoi and Vogle and to the north towards Young-Harris is just beautiful.

I just did the Six Gap Century (9h30m)...the stop at the top of Hog Pen / bottom of Brasstown Bald was cool. HogPen Gap absolutely destroyed some riders who did the "walk of shame". As I'm a mouth breather and grunted past them...most of the walkers looked away.

http://dolomoto.smugmug.com/Motorcyc...IMG1064-XL.jpg

HogPen is a tough ride...especially after 60+ miles of the Six Gap. And I'm on my Ultegra compact double. Yeah...BB needs a triple for sure.

The Six Gap Century was the best ride I've been on...but I've only ridden 5 centuries. YMMV.

Garthe 09-28-2011 09:05 PM

My seven year old.
 
At the track last Sunday.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-kNMv...-kNMvcmG-M.jpg

The collection...

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-778g...-778gmbv-M.jpg

Mr Head 09-28-2011 09:12 PM

Cool, Hope you got a brother that's an ortho with that poster on the wall. :lol3


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Originally Posted by Garthe (Post 16960211)


Mr Head 09-28-2011 09:23 PM

Got home early for a change tonight and of course the wind was blowing on-shore so I went with it.
Off down the hill and east to the golf course parking, make a turn and come back past the hill head down to the car wash, turn around again and ride back and up to the top, down and home.

On my way up the slight hill with that massive tail wind, to the parking area turn around this fat guy goes by on the hill mind, like I'm painted on the fence. He has a tiny little being in tow.
Upon closer inspection the fat guy is on a mtb with a fucking electric motor!:huh
No wonder he blew by at maybe 20 mph as I'm huffing out 11. I was thinking there for a minute that potatoes might be aerodynamic after all.:lol3
Big guy, sitting bolt upright pedaling at maybe 40 rpm. Doing about 35 mph. nobody is going to suspect him of having a motor on the bike path. Nope. :huh

After I turned that 25 mph tail wind was in my face. We got 'er done though. Trudging up the hill is getting easier, but I am still getting squeezed by daylight. I hate riding with lights. Feels clunky.

The ride:

<iframe height='405' width='590' frameborder='0' allowtransparency='true' scrolling='no' src='http://app.strava.com/rides/1791144/embed/63199228ddfc09a35cac51e53116e0c36315982b'></iframe>

Garthe 09-28-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Head (Post 16960247)
Cool, Hope you got a brother that's an ortho with that poster on the wall.

It's a painting, not a poster.

If it was Lance Armstrong in the painting, would I then need a brother who is a Endocrinologist :scratch.

Lewy 09-29-2011 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Head (Post 16953583)
Select the "Share Ride" Tab, then "Embed", copy the text and paste it into the reply box,
AFTER you click the "A/A" in the upper right corner of the reply box.

Same way one embeds a YouTube, or Smugmug video.

Thank you, hopefully this works.

<iframe height='405' width='590' frameborder='0' allowtransparency='true' scrolling='no' src='http://app.strava.com/rides/1795611/embed/8f2725ea52dff640300f3d8e90980d06ba3ca740'></iframe>

Tonight was the first time I have taken the CX bike out for a night ride on Singletrack. It was a lot of fun. With that 27kms it made it 70kms all up for the day.

Gummee! 09-29-2011 05:31 AM

Cross practice last nite. Friends of mine live out in the boonies in The Plains with a place big enough to have a full-size cross course thru it. :clap So that's where we rode!

The 'big loop' is 12-ish minutes. I rode that slowly with T so he could show me round, then slowly again so I knew where I was going, then once we hit the house again, he went off like a shot and that's about the last time I saw him close up till I got tired and waited for J to catch up to me so she'd have someone to ride with.

Couple of thoughts: I absolutely SUCK out loud at getting on and off the bike. If there's one thing I *KNOW* I need to work on, its that. The rest is pretty much all either power or bike handling. Bike handling I'm good at, power will come (again)

So... I'm gonna find something to make some barriers out of and ride round my yard and practice. I've got 4ac so its not like I'm gonna wear a loop around the house...

M

Lewy 09-29-2011 05:48 AM

I need to get out and practice some cross training. My problem is I really suck at running.

The local showground has an area that may look promising.

Mr Head 09-29-2011 07:35 AM

I was thinking more in terms of inspiration. i.e. jumping stuff as in the photo. My brother and I pretty much always had something broken and on the mend. And we didn't discover EK until we were more adult.
At a time when most rented crutches, our family owned two pair. :huh
Back then there wasn't a hospital ER nearby so we called the doctor directly and would meet at his office. Generally on a Sunday afternoon.

A painting to boot. Cool.

I never saw a BMX race until I moved back here to California in 97, and there was a track just up the road from the house. I stopped by there one afternoon to watch. That looks like a whole lot of work. :eek1

Those kids have to be in great condition to get around the track like that.

Seven? Wow.

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Originally Posted by Garthe (Post 16960601)
It's a painting, not a poster.

If it was Lance Armstrong in the painting, would I then need a brother who is a Endocrinologist :scratch.


Tallbastid 09-29-2011 07:48 AM

I'm looking for an all mountain upgrade from my Specialized Rockhopper. Looking for 1. FS, 2. durability, 3. good solid components.

That being said, I found a '09 Giant Trance X2 for sale near my home in my size (XL), but I cannot determine if it's XC or AM. I prefer to be more on the long travel/reinforced frame side of things even if I give up some climbing ability/weight. What do you guys think?


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