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ducnut 10-14-2011 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gummee! (Post 17073389)
I'm not done with speed and I'm still that guy. :nod

All depends on what day it is and what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm perfectly happy to toodle along smelling the roses. It usually means a recovery ride, LSD, or I'm getting ready to go really hard for short periods of time.

Common misconception is that riding has to be hard all the time. Ain't so. :nono

M

When I was doing the TT thing, every ride was pushing. I got to where it was no longer enjoyable to get on the bike. I switched gears and am really enjoying the longer stuff.

Mr Head 10-14-2011 08:42 AM

OK, from my experiences with knee re-hab, spinning and coaching...

Spinning does a couple of things, first and most important it lowers the stress into the knee joint. This is a good thing when said joint has been battered, twisted and shoved off it's moorings by fat guys, or really steep ski slopes and ice.
I've managed a few of those mistakes in my past. spinning brought the knee back.
The other very important thing spinning does is replicate thousands of mini leg extensions that serve to strengthen that little handful of a muscle on the inside upper knee at the end of the femur. That little muscle is what keeps the knee cap tracking right when that big assed quad on the outside of the leg tries to pull it up to your hip.
When the big muscle wins the scar tissue built up on the back of your patella tries to gouge it's way across the end of the femur. Or sort of jumps the tracks. This it turns out hurts like hell. There is nothing I've found short of a half bottle of whisky or big needle full of morphine that can dull the pain.
Vicodin ES only gets close if it is a large dose like two pills washed down with a big glass of whisky. That is comes close to knocking me at least out enough I can sleep for about 3 hours until the whisky has worked itself out and the pills begin to wear thin.

Now one of the benefits of spinning is your body becomes used to a new frequency. This means that as you edge up to taller and taller gears all the while keeping the spin going you gain speed.
The big muscle on the outside of the leg isn't allowed to lord it over on the little muscle at the knee so you get balance and strength.
Add some climbs or sustained effort on the flats like a time trial and you build more on the aerobic side.

Back-In-The-Day, we used to ride our first thousand miles with a fixed gear. Something like a 39x16 or so. That forced the spin at least on downhills, and forced you to stand on uphills taking some strain off the knee there too. The idea was to gear yourself so you weren't plodding along, but spinning. The old guys would call this squaring out the spin.

The old guys were fast. They were the same age as me, but I had not begin racign bicycles until my late thirties. They had begun as teens.

Penn State I believe did some studies on efficiency and found that 90 to 120 rpm was the sweet spot. above 120 was usually too fast for too many to sustain for very long.

With my bad knees I spin to allow me to ride at all. The speed comes with miles and hours of riding. I add standing on hills to work the back of my legs, sort of a stairmaster for those of us who hate the gym.
Hills are where I can push my heart rate to the maximum. My legs are not strong enough yet to sustain a big gear on the flats to push my heart rate up for long. My legs give up before my lungs or heart hits redline on the flats.

ducnut 10-14-2011 05:22 PM

OK, then. :lol3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-_pA...layer_embedded#!

TheYeti 10-14-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 17077866)

On my Surly's chainstays it says fatties fit fine. Hell I thought they refering to me when I first got the bike.:rofl:lol3:D

2whl-hoop 10-15-2011 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 17077866)



I rode a Pugsley around the LBS parking lot a week ago. I was surprised at how nicely it rode. I'm seriously considering a Pugs or a Mukluk as a winter/summer playbike (no backflips, though). :D

TheNedster 10-15-2011 03:34 PM

So, the recent rains here may have settled the dust and made the dirt nice and tacky, but they also washed a bunch of the loose stuff away and exposed all manner of sharp, pointy rocks. A run-in with one such rock last weekend resulted in a catastrophic failure of my rear tire, a short hike to the trailhead and a SAG call to TheWifester. (note to self: carry an emergency tire boot :baldy)

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y.../WP_000539.jpg


I was out of town working all week, so I wasn't able to get to the LBS until this morning to get a replacement tire. I ended up getting a pair. They threw in the bike that they were attached to for a few bucks more...

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y.../WP_000547.jpg

New Bike Day kicks ass!!! :ricky :wings

ducnut 10-15-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNedster (Post 17082873)
I was out of town working all week, so I wasn't able to get to the LBS until this morning to get a replacement tire. I ended up getting a pair. They threw in the bike that they were attached to for a few bucks more...

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y.../WP_000547.jpg

New Bike Day kicks ass!!! :ricky :wings

That's happened to me twice. Left with a TT bike for my GF the first time and a MTB for me the second.

Nice bike, BTW. :thumb

mud 10-15-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNedster (Post 17082873)
So, the recent rains here may have settled the dust and made the dirt nice and tacky, but they also washed a bunch of the loose stuff away and exposed all manner of sharp, pointy rocks. A run-in with one such rock last weekend resulted in a catastrophic failure of my rear tire, a short hike to the trailhead and a SAG call to TheWifester. (note to self: carry an emergency tire boot :baldy)

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y.../WP_000539.jpg


I was out of town working all week, so I wasn't able to get to the LBS until this morning to get a replacement tire. I ended up getting a pair. They threw in the bike that they were attached to for a few bucks more...

Nice bike!

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y.../WP_000547.jpg

New Bike Day kicks ass!!! :ricky :wings

Duct tape works wonders, just line the inside of the tire with it. Not that it would have worked for that tear, but it might have been enough to get you home.... It is actually about the ONLY thing I use duct tape for.

TheYeti 10-15-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mud (Post 17083160)
Duct tape works wonders, just line the inside of the tire with it. Not that it would have worked for that tear, but it might have been enough to get you home.... It is actually about the ONLY thing I use duct tape for.


You are NOT from the south, Duct tape will!!! fix anything.:lol3

Chisenhallw 10-16-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 17070767)
Hey, I'm that guy! :ken

I'm done with the whole speed thing and just ride, now. BTW, the Silver Comet Trail, in its entirety, is on my bucket list.

I'd also recommend the Katy Trail. Lots of fun, and gorgeous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Trail_State_Park

ducnut 10-16-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chisenhallw (Post 17088591)
I'd also recommend the Katy Trail. Lots of fun, and gorgeous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Trail_State_Park

Yeah, I think we're going to CC tour it, next year. I really want to start getting out there a bit, on bikes. If all goes well, I'm hoping to take off a few months, next year, and bicycle tour.

Gummee! 10-16-2011 06:52 PM

Duct tape.
Dollar bills
Gu wrappers
Big patches that came in old style patch kits
Mylar

Hell, shove damn near anything in there to get it to stay and ride out. :nod

I went to the UCI race up at Granogue outside Wilmington DE this weekend. I think I netted $50 for my time as a 'team mechanic.' :clap

Put $50 worth of mid-grade in on Fri out in Warrenton. Drove up there, drove around, and drove most of the way back on that $50. I probably coulda made it the whole way back if I hadn't hit nasty-assed traffic on 95S, then again on the Beltway, and yet again on the VA side of the Beltway at Rt 7.

Oh well.

Interesting weekend. Went mostly well for me as a mechanic. Some things I was getting blamed for I don't have any control over, some things I was getting blamed for I installed but was given the part. One botched handoff that wasn't my fault either (she tripped in the pits. Whoops!)

Its frustrating being the 'team mechanic' when I only see the bikes at the races. :nod I can't fix it right before your race. :nah If you want it fixed, I can take it home and bring it to you sometime during the week. If you don't want to do that... :rolleyes I don't wanna hear the bitching about stuff *I* didn't do and am not allowed to fix. :nono

Except for that chainring, the 2 bikes I'm most responsible for worked fine. :nod

So I didn't race this weekend. Had a case of the screwits. Turned out to be a pretty good thing cause the race I probably would have been doing had a HUGE crash in it that sent 2 guys to the hospital. Since I don't have any points AND I registered late, I would have been 'involved' in it. :eek1

DCCX next weekend. :clap back at it!

M

mgorman 10-16-2011 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummee! (Post 17090275)
Duct tape.
Dollar bills
Gu wrappers
Big patches that came in old style patch kits
Mylar

M


I carry a small knife with me everywhere when I moto or pedal. When you slice like that there is always some kind of road debris around. I've cut plastic pop bottles and milk cartons to make "boots" to repair tears like that. Just remember to remove them, after a couple hundred miles they fail from flexing resulting in another flat. I won't get into detail on how I know that. Wouldn't hurt to cut up a few pieces and keep them in your seat bag like I do

We used a $10 bill once but had to remove the tire to pay for our ice cream then put the change back in for the ride home :D

Gummee! 10-16-2011 07:34 PM

http://www.ecovelo.info/images/giant-ad-485.jpg
This is Giant's answer to GM's 'bikes suck' ad campaign. I like this one much better.

M

Dranrab Luap 10-17-2011 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gummee! (Post 17090626)
http://www.ecovelo.info/images/giant-ad-485.jpg
This is Giant's answer to GM's 'bikes suck' ad campaign. I like this one much better.

M

A photo of the typical lardass truck driver standing next to the truck and a photo of a fit bicyclist next to the bike would have been perfect.


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