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gearguywb 02-29-2012 09:29 AM

Frame weight is fairly inconsequential. It is the weight of all of the stuff that you hang off it that comes into play, and particularly, rotational mass.

Always buy the best wheels/tires that you can afford. Makes a world of difference.

Remember, pick any two: light, cheap, strong

ducnut 02-29-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurelius (Post 18101432)
I saw a lot of CF mountain bikes for sale on e-bay at much lower prices than what I'd be paying at the dealership, so I may try that avenue. I really don't care if they're used and a little scratched up - a brand new one will look the same after my first few face plants anyway. :lol3

We've bought 3 bikes, off eBay. One was new, one a demo, and one slightly used (all current model year, though). Only the demo bike had an issue (bent rotor) and the seller made good on it. We've managed to pay ~45-60% of retail, on the bikes. It's definitely a good way to go, provided you know what you're looking at. I guess, demo/rent some bikes. Then, starting trolling eBay and Craigslilst for that model. On eBay, you can go into the "advanced search" and setup a permanent search using the bike brand and model. You'll get a daily e-mail of new listings. Use SearchTempest to troll all the CL ads.

For FL, stick with a 100mm/4" travel XC bike. And, a 29er if you can find/afford it.

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Originally Posted by Aurelius (Post 18101432)
Good to know, maybe I should stick with the narrower tires. I've only encountered sugar sand on motorcycles, and it was like riding on wet ice. :arg

I'd definitely stay in the 2.2"/54mm range. Wider is too much weight to spin up (you're getting into DH tires, the wider you get) and narrower will not give the float you'll need. I'm on a 2.2"/29" and my GF is on a 2"/26". Like I mentioned, she definitely had more issue and is ~50lbs lighter than me.

ducnut 02-29-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gearguywb (Post 18101766)
Remember, pick any two: light, cheap, strong

I don't remember anything strong or light being cheap. :lol3

pierce 02-29-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurelius (Post 18100200)
...

Here's a good video showing what Florida terrain looks like:...

"Highway to the Danger Zone" while riding around on flat wide singletrack with open turns ? :dunno

k7 02-29-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Moore (Post 18101118)
The cruelest month was particularly cruel to my bicycling plan. 2780 as of this morning. 166 miles in Feb, for a total of 430 in 2012. That hurt. I should be at 583 already. I need a couple big (for me) months to get back on track.

What's your goal?

k7 02-29-2012 12:37 PM

Results from Sebring
 
If you're not familiar with Sebring, it's one of the ultra races that's a RAAM qualifier which was held a few weekends ago. To qualify for RAAM, you have to ride unassisted for at least 400-miles in 24-hours. Sebring is a recumbent's paradise - it's a very flat course.

That segment of Sebring was won by Maria Parker who led all comers with an amazing 474 miles. Maria rides a Cruz recumbent.

The drafting segment was just as interesting. The magic mark is 500 miles in 24-hours and it's only been accomplished three times in the past. Four riders, all riding Bacchetta CarbonAeros, broke that mark this year:

Jim Verheul...............523.9
Jacquie Hafner.......... 516.4
John Schlitter ...........516.4
Kent Polk..................505.1

I met and rode with Jacque, John and Kent on Ragbrai last year - they are monsters on bikes..and extremely nice people.

More here.

ducnut 02-29-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18103225)
Four riders, all riding Bacchetta CarbonAeros, broke that mark this year:

Jim Verheul...............523.9
Jacquie Hafner.......... 516.4
John Schlitter ...........516.4
Kent Polk..................505.1

That just doesn't seem possible. WOW!

Mercury264 02-29-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 18103421)
That just doesn't seem possible. WOW!

+1 Incredible !!

Gummee! 02-29-2012 03:08 PM

On a completely different note:

Taking weight weenie-ism to a new level

:eek1

M

k7 02-29-2012 03:38 PM

easy on the eyes
 
Jacquie's pretty easy on the eyes - Jacquie and John - both great people:

http://ultraracenews.files.wordpress...10/jsfc508.jpg

John has just finished the FC 508.

I haven't met Maria but she seems to be a good person and one hell of a rider:

http://www.bentrideronline.com/wordp...er-300x277.jpg

I'd love to see these women on the same bike - Maria rides a Cruz which has a front moving bottom bracket. Jacquie rides a CA 2 - a typical high racer recumbent.

Aurelius 02-29-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummee! (Post 18104290)
On a completely different note:

Taking weight weenie-ism to a new level

:eek1

M

Ten pounds lighter than mine. I have to have one! :norton :lol3

Aurelius 02-29-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18104512)
http://www.bentrideronline.com/wordp...er-300x277.jpg

I'd love to see these women on the same bike - Maria rides a Cruz which has a front moving bottom bracket. Jacquie rides a CA 2 - a typical high racer recumbent.

Why would someone in excellent health prefer a recumbent over a regular bicycle? Around here, only very old people ride them.

k7 02-29-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurelius (Post 18105045)
Why would someone in excellent health prefer a recumbent over a regular bicycle? Around here, only very old people ride them.

Bacchetta is based in FL and that's where Sebring is held also. Maybe rather than basing an opinion on some outdated sterotype, stop by Bacchetta for a ride or attend the race next year.

Edit: you might enjoy this from a friend of mine: http://bicycletouringpro.com/blog/wh...ecumbent-bike/

FWIW, Susan is well into her 60's and she did something like 189 miles in 12 hrs at "Calvin Challenge". I did a 200-km brevet with her a few weeks ago ... good rider. After that, she did two more days of riding!

ducnut 02-29-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummee! (Post 18104290)
On a completely different note:

Taking weight weenie-ism to a new level

:eek1

M

I'm guessing that bike doesn't do anything good, except weigh next to nothing. :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18104512)
Maria rides a Cruz which has a front moving bottom bracket.

What's the reasoning behind that design vs what you have?

Bimble 02-29-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurelius (Post 18105045)
Why would someone in excellent health prefer a recumbent over a regular bicycle? Around here, only very old people ride them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18103225)
...

The drafting segment was just as interesting. The magic mark is 500 miles in 24-hours and it's only been accomplished three times in the past. Four riders, all riding Bacchetta CarbonAeros, broke that mark this year:

Jim Verheul...............523.9
Jacquie Hafner.......... 516.4
John Schlitter ...........516.4
Kent Polk..................505.1

I think this says it all.

That is just an astonishing feat.

:bow


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