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Aurelius 03-29-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Askel (Post 18332572)
The bigger the cushion, the better the pushin'. :evil


Also, good for snow.

http://www.feep.org/gallery/d/65900-2/SANY0951.JPG

:clap I wish I had a bike like that when I still lived in NY state. Might have made the Winters a little more bearable.

CatfishRacing 03-29-2012 12:27 PM

I just picked up a '12 Pugsley.
What a riot!

fifthcircle 03-29-2012 03:27 PM

Call me crazy, but this is a win-win!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAoX...e_gdata_player

sorry for just a link....
(any idea how to embed while on an iPad?):ear

I came across this vid while debating on getting a dirt bike this summer, or rekindling my love for my pedal machines. I really don't have good places to moto. I do have the local mountain bike single track trails 1mi from my house. That and I have a 11mo old son, and a bike trailer on the way. Besides...I need to drop about 30lbs. I am sick of being fat, for the second time!! I was a shade over 200 and doing triathlons and 80mi gravel road rides when my wife got pregnant. Damnit damnit damnit!!!

ducnut 03-29-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Askel (Post 18332436)
First time with Fat Eino out on real singletrack too. It's.... interesting..... :D

How so?

k7 03-29-2012 10:38 PM

Making the rounds
 
This one has appeared in several forums -

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Ouch.

Askel 03-30-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 18336019)
How so?

Weird bike handling because of the frame geometry....

Awesome traction, but it slows you down a lot, 2.35s will feel like 'cross tires after this...

Running at 10psi is not unlike an air shock pumped up too much with no dampening at all....

Wide bottom bracket and the platform pedals have me touching pedals down a lot in the corners....

And the big oaf pedaling it is giggling like a little girl the entire time. :lol3

Aurelius 03-30-2012 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18337878)
This one has appeared in several forums -

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Ouch.

That's why I will NOT join another group ride. That happens all the time around here. Hearing about a group ride in which some rider didn't crash is actually a rarity. :bluduh

fullmonte 03-30-2012 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurelius (Post 18338758)
That's why I will NOT join another group ride. That happens all the time around here. Hearing about a group ride in which some rider didn't crash is actually a rarity. :bluduh

Must be a Floriduh thang. Sounds like the Floridiot motorcyclists who come up here to ride the mountains and crash, which happens with alarming regularity. Must be those pesky corners that cause them to think too much.:pot

rob feature 03-30-2012 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18337878)
This one has appeared in several forums -

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Ouch.


nobody noticed the stop sign :dunno

ducnut 03-30-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by k7 (Post 18337878)
This one has appeared in several forums

Typical arrogance of wannabe racers. Clearly, there's a stop sign, yet, they're too serious of racers to have to stop for it. Serves them right.

I've only ridden in two group rides. Both times, there was nothing but whining and crying about what the leadout was doing. Fuck it! If you can't hang, drop off the back.

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Originally Posted by Askel (Post 18338166)
Weird bike handling because of the frame geometry....

Awesome traction, but it slows you down a lot, 2.35s will feel like 'cross tires after this...

Running at 10psi is not unlike an air shock pumped up too much with no dampening at all....

Wide bottom bracket and the platform pedals have me touching pedals down a lot in the corners....

And the big oaf pedaling it is giggling like a little girl the entire time. :lol3

I wondered exactly what you meant. That all makes sense. They've always seemed like a limited-use (flotation/slow going) bicycle to me. But, they're definitely cool.

You ever run as much as a 42-47mm on your Jake? I'm thinking of trying a set on my Tricross.

Askel 03-30-2012 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 18339260)
You ever run as much as a 42-47mm on your Jake? I'm thinking of trying a set on my Tricross.

Thought about it, but never tried it.

But I did throw drop bars on my SS 29er with 2.55s :evil

http://www.bialas.org/blog/heck.jpg

That was maybe a bit much. :lol3


Should have the Fargo done this weekend though. Going to try 2.1s on that for a while.

ducnut 03-30-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Askel (Post 18339280)
Thought about it, but never tried it.

But I did throw drop bars on my SS 29er with 2.55s :evil

That was maybe a bit much. :lol3


Should have the Fargo done this weekend though. Going to try 2.1s on that for a while.

Well, I'm brainstorming, for a couple reasons. I'm thinking of jumping up in size, for better ride and flotation on our farm roads (probably like your forest roads). Plus, my MTB partner is buying a 'cross bike, to ride the same roads, and is ~255lbs. I thought he'd be a sure bet for them, but, I was going to try them first. I'd have to ditch my fenders and get a wider set. Mainly, I'm concerned about losing a lot of speed, on asphalt.

Askel 03-30-2012 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ducnut (Post 18339364)
Well, I'm brainstorming, for a couple reasons. I'm thinking of jumping up in size, for better ride and flotation on our farm roads (probably like your forest roads). Plus, my MTB partner is buying a 'cross bike, to ride the same roads, and is ~255lbs. I thought he'd be a sure bet for them, but, I was going to try them first. I'd have to ditch my fenders and get a wider set. Mainly, I'm concerned about losing a lot of speed, on asphalt.

Actually, the place I've found where larger tires just kill you speedwise is in the dirt. Aired down low enough to take advantage of the float, there's a *lot* of rolling resistance there.

I guess I see the relationship as this- Tire size only matters for one reason: Bigger tires let you run lower pressures without pinch flatting. Tire size by itself doesn't really affect speed, traction, or flotation. It's all in the air pressure that size lets you run. Of course, this is highly simplified, but I consider it the most important factor.

One thing I've discovered in fat biking is that rim size makes an even bigger difference in flotation than actual tire size.

Aurelius 03-30-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fullmonte (Post 18339210)
Must be a Floriduh thang. Sounds like the Floridiot motorcyclists who come up here to ride the mountains and crash, which happens with alarming regularity. Must be those pesky corners that cause them to think too much.:pot

Corners? :scratch


:lol3

ducnut 03-30-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Askel (Post 18339517)
Actually, the place I've found where larger tires just kill you speedwise is in the dirt. Aired down low enough to take advantage of the float, there's a *lot* of rolling resistance there.

Agreed, as you flexing a longer length of sidewall and flexing it further/deeper.

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Originally Posted by Askel (Post 18339517)
I guess I see the relationship as this- Tire size only matters for one reason: Bigger tires let you run lower pressures without pinch flatting. Tire size by itself doesn't really affect speed, traction, or flotation. It's all in the air pressure that size lets you run. Of course, this is highly simplified, but I consider it the most important factor.

One thing I've discovered in fat biking is that rim size makes an even bigger difference in flotation than actual tire size.

That all makes sense.

Currently, I'm on 32mm. On large media (1-1/4"), gravel roads, they're all over the place and I can feel the rims occasionally bottom. I crank up the speed, to gain stability. On dirt that is crusted, they break through, sink, and spin. On the road they're pretty harsh.

37mm have been a good compromise. I replaced my GF's knobbies with these and that's how I ended up on 32mm; thought I'd try them. Now, I'm thinking of going larger, to see how they work.

I'll give an update, if/when I try them.


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