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Homey 10-11-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Alejo
I have a luggage rack and panniers on my sub 1k bike. Is that wrong?

Nope! Not at all. When I did Paris-Brest-Paris I had a seatpost rack on my Colnago C-50.

In general terms, there is nothing wrong with a sub $1k bike. For the type of riding I do, I prefer not to ride them.

Gummee! 10-11-2007 04:08 PM

So I went out for an LSD (for me right now) ride: did the loop around the 470 from home to home. :ricky

Ran across the DU cycling team/club Thursday ride at their 'flat changing party.' Decided that I'd like some company, so I invited myself along on their ride.

Was talking to a dood wearing an NCVC (DC area club) jersey. Turns out, he's not from NoVA. :baldy Oh well. Also turns out he's farging 18!!

I got to thinkin that I've been riding longer'n he's been alive. :gerg Then I realized that the wheelset I was riding's prolly older'n he is too! :gerg :gerg

DAMN but I hate it when the realization that I'm old creeps back into my noggin. :bluduh

Flaco 10-11-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummee!
Thinkin about building a new road bike.

Want something different. I'm debating between something like a Time/Look/lugged CF or a lugged steel frame. :scratch I'm not too hip on the CF wundermachines that everyone seems to be :tb ing after. My preference is towards:
http://images.velonews.com/images/news/9452.13717.t.jpg

Bikes of this era. Was perusing ebay for a bit just now. There don't tend to be the 'odd brands' advertised at the moment. Looking for something NOT Trek/Schwinn/etc. Merckx? Maybe. Colnago? perhaps. Way pricey tho. :bluduh I'd love to have another Concorde. :nod Loved that bike. Ditto with another Battaglin. Didn't try the Scapins we were importing, but they looked good too. Maybe a little builder? Brew? Teesdale?

Optimally, I'd love to build my own bikes from the tubes up. :nod I don't know how to weld, braze, or even own a frame jig, so it'd be a tough thing to do. :baldy One of these days!

:scratch

M

No reserved price

It's in Italy but :tb

Gummee! 10-11-2007 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaco
No reserved price

It's in Italy but :tb

Mo bettah
http://i12.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/bc/30/9502_1_sbl.JPG

Mo mo bettah:
http://i2.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/bb/1b/e028_1.JPG

:tb

M

Flaco 10-11-2007 04:56 PM

Love the Cinelli but I'd probably pass on the Specialized. I sort of fixated on bikes during the nineties when CF was first being developed as a material for frames. I saw a bunch of early adopters go thru tons of headache trying to get their plastic bikes to stand up.

I go for lugged steel or maybe Ti if one has the means.

http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/bb/f6/f974_12_s.JPG

What size are you?

f.

Cat0020 10-11-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homey
The 508 was pretty tough this year. Consistant 15-30mph headwinds for the first 250+ miles were pretty brutal. 30 of 70 solo racers DNF'd in the first 200 miles. The nice thing about the wind though was that it was cool and kept the temps down, that was nice. Other than the wind the race was great. We set the two tandem course record with a kind of soft time (35hrs 11mins). It would have been nice to break 30hrs but it wasn't to be this year. I'm sure another team will break it soon if not next year.

I have a couple of questions about the Furnace Creek 508..

What is the percentage of participant that rode recumbent bikes?

How well did the recumbent riders finish in comparison to regular bike riders?

Gummee! 10-11-2007 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaco
Love the Cinelli but I'd probably pass on the Specialized. I sort of fixated on bikes during the nineties when CF was first being developed as a material for frames. I saw a bunch of early adopters go thru tons of headache trying to get their plastic bikes to stand up.

I go for lugged steel or maybe Ti if one has the means.

http://i23.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/bb/f6/f974_12_s.JPG

What size are you?

f.

I remember the same teething problems. I also know that the Specialized S-Works CF bike I owned was one of the nicest riding bikes I've had. Ever. Road OR Mtn. :nod SO....... Having had about half a dozen S-Workses over the years, I'm jonesin for another.

I ride between a 54 and 55cm TT. ST is fairly irrelevant. ST angle needs to be between 73 and 74 degrees.

You?

Oh, and more bike pron:

http://i8.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/bb/d3/008c_3.JPG


M

dirtypumpkin 10-11-2007 05:30 PM

Did a great 13 mile loop last saturday from my buddy's door in Incline Village.

Climbed up the surface streets to Mt Rose HWY, then hammered up the hill about 2000 feet.
Took a right off the HWY into the dirt, about 6 inches of snow on the sides
of the trail, a little mud, but the single track was great, only saw 4 hikers the whole trip, no other riders.

At one point on the top you could see all of carson city on one side, and lake tahoe on the other.

Did about 2500 total climbing, the finish was fun, dropped into the top
of Diamond Peak ski resort and bombed down the face.
Was so steep in some spots you could not stop even with both brakes locked.:freaky

Great loop, here is a rough aproximation from google earth.

http://i24.tinypic.com/2w34xap.jpg

Homey 10-11-2007 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat0020
I have a couple of questions about the Furnace Creek 508..

What is the percentage of participant that rode recumbent bikes?

How well did the recumbent riders finish in comparison to regular bike riders?


I don't know what the % is but there were at least four 2-recumbent teams and three solo recumbents. There have been some very fast bents doing the 508 in the past. The solo recumbent record is 31:50:35 compared to 27:15:21 for the DF record. The Two rider record for DF is 26:16:25, the recumbent team Mussel finished in 29:31 which I believe is the record for recumbents. There are a couple fast guys on that recumbent team. I know one of thier riders had done RAAM twice.

I think the bent riders had a distinct advantage this year with the headwinds for the first 250+ miles! It didn't seem to affect them nearly as much as the DF riders. 30 of 71 solo riders DNF'd before Furnace Creek!!!!! Yikes!!! Believe me I was not disappointed to be on the tandem heading across Mojave. We took it easy on the first climb and must have passed 15 riders including a couple recumbents before we got to California City (TS1). As far as the recumbents at the 508, I think the length of the climbs, not the steepness is their disadvantage. There are a number of climbs that exceed 25 miles with no let up!!!
My thinking is that recumbents climb at speeds very similar to our tandems and that recumbents and tandems excel in similar terrain and conditions. The really long and the really steep stuff slowed us down more than the DF bikes. Enough that we couldn't quit make up for it in the flats and descents. The winds this year were the great equalizer.
A lot of people were remarking that there were a lot of recumbents at the 508 this year. I would guess that the recumbent presence will continue to grow at the 508. They seem to be getting more popular as they are able to make them lighter and more efficient.

Homey 10-11-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaco
Love the Cinelli but I'd probably pass on the Specialized. I sort of fixated on bikes during the nineties when CF was first being developed as a material for frames. I saw a bunch of early adopters go thru tons of headache trying to get their plastic bikes to stand up.

I go for lugged steel or maybe Ti if one has the means.

Every frame material has gone through a developemnt curve. The ninties was almost 20 years ago!!!! My how time flies! Frame manufacturers are so far beyond the ninties carbon technology that it isn't even funny. If you limit yourself like that you don't know what you are missing! :wink:

Cat0020 10-11-2007 06:29 PM

When an upright bicyclist use 30% of pedaling effort is overcoming the wind resistance at 10 mph.. I'm not sure how much more effort is required at 20 mpg.
http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co...edAndPower.htm

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3411/lowraceryx7.jpg

Homey 10-11-2007 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat0020
When an upright bicyclist use 30% of pedaling effort is overcoming the wind resistance at 10 mph.. I'm not sure how much more effort is required at 20 mpg.

I'm not an expert in this but I would have to guess that there is more involved that just aerodynamics. Especially on a ride like the 508. The climbs are extremely long. Maybe the recumbents aren't as efficent climbers as DF bikes or maybe it's just that there are few people riding recumbents and therefore there are fewer good riders on them?

Cat0020 10-11-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLeR650
Yeah, but the guy on the left can see more than the road 10 feet in front of his tire without straining his neck. Its not always about speed. I set mine up with the bars about half an inch above the seat. It was the best thing I've ever done.

It's kinda like how a GS isn't the fastest road bike, but if you're going farther than a tank of gas it'll kick a gsxr750's ass.

GS tank is also 3 times larger than GSXRs..

Gummee! 10-11-2007 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat0020
When an upright bicyclist use 30% of pedaling effort is overcoming the wind resistance at 10 mph.. I'm not sure how much more effort is required at 20 mpg.
http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co...edAndPower.htm

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3411/lowraceryx7.jpg

IIRC effort is the cube of speed. Aerodynamic drag is exponential.

www.analyticcycling.com is yer friend

M

Oznerol 10-11-2007 07:24 PM

Attempted Murder
 
So, we're vacationing in the UP this week and some of next.

I PM'd Askel for biking recommendations, and it turned out that we're in his neighborhood. So he invited me to a cyclocross practice this evening.

What a cruel thing to do.

I managed not to puke.


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