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RyanIsMyName 11-28-2009 05:56 PM

I'm MELLLLLLLLTING
 
http://i49.tinypic.com/2hq8eg2.jpg

skibum69 11-29-2009 07:05 AM

that was an ugly painjob, I don't blame you for getting rid of it:lol3

pierce 11-29-2009 09:36 AM

my kid dug my old road bike up out of the garage to take for a ride (after we replaced the brake cables and mounted a new back tire), and unbeknownst to me, took some pictures of it that I found on my camera....

let me preface this by saying, this is a *really* beat up old bike. I rode the crap out of it all through the 70s and 80s (it was new in 1975), but it still works quite nicely. the head tube has a nasty scar from where I caught a steel cable coming down a fireroad at twilight (hey, that cable wasn't there when I went up!) on Mt Tam circa 1976. he'd just taken the toeclips off, and late that day replaced the vintage campi pedals with a spare set of shimano clipless I had lying around :dunno

the white paint on the frame was picked up on a heavy foggy night off the streets of downtown Pacific Grove circa 1978 when I was riding home from an all day ride, and was dead beat. figured it was latex and I'd clean it off in the AM, and crap, it was enamel and hardened on good. oh well.

so...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5119.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5121.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5127.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5130.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5134.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5135.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5140.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_JS1yca5KB-0/Sx...0/IMG_5144.JPG
(he misrouted the rear brake cable, I fixed that yesterday, goes -over- the left seat stay not under the right one)


Old Skool RuleZ!

I wonder if I should try and pull all the rusty chrome stuff apart, steel wool it in some WD40 or whatever, then get it chromed? nah, its an old soldier, leave it alone in its dignity.

Andrew 11-29-2009 09:53 AM

Lovely bike, Pierce. Steel lugs... my favorite.

pierce 11-29-2009 09:56 AM

oh, the other thing... those old school campi brakes. the adjusters had rubber rings around them which years ago cracked and fell off. I'm guessing I can replace them with the right size o-rings? anyone done this and have any suggestions as to size, or do I just have to take the piece into the o-ring store and try a few for size?

RogueClimber 11-29-2009 10:25 AM

Anyone riding a bike with the SS couplers?

RogueWife and I were just discussing another trip to France to ride but hate flying with our regular road bikes.

I looked at the Moots during interbike and I am quite intrigued. As I understand they will pack down into a standard large suitcase and avoid the bend you over bike fees airlines charge now.

pierce 11-29-2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueClimber
Anyone riding a bike with the SS couplers?

RogueWife and I were just discussing another trip to France to ride but hate flying with our regular road bikes.

I looked at the Moots during interbike and I am quite intrigued. As I understand they will pack down into a standard large suitcase and avoid the bend you over bike fees airlines charge now.

why not rent bikes while you're there? or, buy used bikes, then resell before you leave? You probably can find some french ADVriders who'd help out with the logistics....

RogueClimber 11-29-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierce
why not rent bikes while you're there? or, buy used bikes, then resell before you leave? You probably can find some french ADVriders who'd help out with the logistics....

I really hate riding a bike that isn't mine. Once you get the fit dialed in the saddle just perfect blah blah blah...

Gummee! 11-29-2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierce
oh, the other thing... those old school campi brakes. the adjusters had rubber rings around them which years ago cracked and fell off. I'm guessing I can replace them with the right size o-rings? anyone done this and have any suggestions as to size, or do I just have to take the piece into the o-ring store and try a few for size?

Those rubber donuts are for ease of grip when ya gotta adjust the brakes on the fly. You don't 'need' em. :nah They look good tho!

www.Campyonly.com is prolly yer best spot if you want authentic Campy stuff for your authentic Campy bike. :nod

M

Gummee! 11-29-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueClimber
I really hate riding a bike that isn't mine. Once you get the fit dialed in the saddle just perfect blah blah blah...

I've found the same thing, but once I have the baseline #s from a bike I like, I can usually replicate em on the new one.

Assuming they're not too far off that is!

:ricky

M

pierce 11-29-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gummee!
Those rubber donuts are for ease of grip when ya gotta adjust the brakes on the fly. You don't 'need' em. :nah They look good tho!

www.Campyonly.com is prolly yer best spot if you want authentic Campy stuff for your authentic Campy bike. :nod

M

the forum on that site had a database crash, more than half the older postings are empty :-/

anyways, yup, some generic o-rings from the local Ace Hardware did the trick. :thumb
the adjusters are rather sharp edged without them.

And, wow, on the campi "chrome" brake bits, at least, the rust crud scrapes off and it looks like stainless underneath, not chrome plated. so I guess I'm going to have to tear all them little 'chrome' bits off the otherwise alloy parts and have some fun with a scotchbrite sponge and some wd40. I dunno what to do about the frame, one part of me says 'strip it and repaint it' but the other part says 'screw it, leave it as it is, you can't improve it'.

FYI, this is a 1975 Motobecane Grand Record. Was the 2nd from the top bike they made then, the top being a 'team' criterium frame. Has double butted reynolds 531 all tubes, stays, forks. originally had campi neuvo record cranks, derraileurs, but weinman sidepull brakes, which kinda sucked. had huret hubs on sewup wheels. I forget if it originally had a campi or another headset. I replaced almost everything I could with campi over the years I rode it regularlly, although I note the brake levers are still Weinmann (IIRC, french handlebars were an odd diameter, and the campi levers that fit them were special order and $$$).

I creamed the neuvo record derailleur in a nasty crash so replaced it circa 1979 with a superrecord. it even still has a regina cluster, the wheels are home built 4-cross with DT spokes, campi hubs, and SuperChampion red label "Gentlemen" 700c rims :)

RyanIsMyName 11-29-2009 04:23 PM

Next order of business: replace the crappy shock fork. It's always been way too hard, even with the preload turned all the way down. Plus it'll save me some weight. I'd like to put a rigid MTB fork on there but here's the problem. My current fork is about 18" crown to axle but I haven't yet found a rigid fork that's more than 16.X", besides the nashbar steel fork. Is an inch and a half really going to make a huge difference?

http://i46.tinypic.com/2drb3lu.jpg

Gummee! 11-29-2009 04:32 PM

If the fork is new, uncut, there should be more'n plenty steerer to getcha :thumb

M

pierce 11-29-2009 04:35 PM

on springs, at least, adjusting the preload does NOT affect ride 'hardness', just the at-rest ride height. the spring rate of a coil spring is near constant until it bottoms out. damping adjustments set how fast the shock responds, and excess damping can feel 'stiff' but only in transient response.

an air shock like a Fox Float would let you adjust the actual stiffness, as well as damping by adjusting the air pressure.

that said, measure your wheel while imagining the fattest tire you'd ever want from axle to top, does that clear 16" forks? I'd expect it would, 16" radius is 32" diameter, and unless you're going to run 3" balloon tires on a 29er rim, you should be fine.

trailer Rails 11-30-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gummee!
If the fork is new, uncut, there should be more'n plenty steerer to getcha :thumb

M

He is talking about the height of the fork. He is trying to keep the head angle about the same as it was with the suspension fork on there.

I think surly makes a fork that is pretty close to 18". It is the instigator fork.


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