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fifthcircle 02-14-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ducnut
Trek has the "aura" around my LBS. People buy them because of the "Lance Effect". So many of the owners just know they bought a Trek and Lance rides one. They don't know anything else about the bike. The local Trek shop prays on these people. They're selling them 2-4 year old bikes, fresh out of the box. They have little current inventory that one would be interested in. It's weird. There's a real "click" in the place. If you're not part of it, you don't feel comfortable. If you don't buy into their attitude, you know you're not welcome. Trek don't even make their own stuff (not that it's a huge deal). They're nothing special; just another offshore bike.

Lance is my hero. I'm going to buy a Trek at Mellow Johnny's next weekend! :clap


Ok, so I'm going to be there....but I won't be buying a bike :lol3

There are now two "Trek Stores" in Omaha, along with several other bike shops that carry Trek. The Trek Store of Omaha has kinda that click feel to it as well. If you don't ride a 2000mi per year, or want to buy a new bike...they don't really seem to care. I don't shop there. I shop where they let me hang out at the service counter and show me their recent favorite email/youtube video while putting new parts on my bike, at a deep discount...because they are my friends. Best thing ever! :deal

ducnut 02-14-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fifthcircle
I shop where they let me hang out at the service counter and show me their recent favorite email/youtube video while putting new parts on my bike, at a deep discount...because they are my friends. Best thing ever! :deal

Hell yeah!

My LBS has a keg on tap. Do their Sat or Sun AM ride, CX race, or TT (summer). Take a shower at the shop. Grab some Panera bagels (AM) or Donnie's organic pizza (PM). Hang out all around. BS with customers we know and with those we don't. It's just a good, cool place to be. I think people who walk in catch that vibe, too. I even got the shop owner to go to the Indy MotoGP and he doesn't even ride......yet. :lol3

rajflyboy 02-14-2010 07:02 PM

ducnut

Nice Bike !!!!!

TheYeti 02-14-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ducnut
That'd be perfect. IDK why I didn't notice the Cross Check before. I'd looked at the Long Haul Trucker, fairly recently. Looking at geometry between them, they're really close in most aspects, except chainstay length (1.4"), headtube height (1.2"), and BB drop (.5"). I think the tighter lengths of the 'Check will make it more fun to ride. I'll have to drive a 100mi to a shop, but, no problem.

Thanks!

Nah, most shops can and will order them for you. It doesn't have to be a Surly dealer just you local bike shop.

pierce 02-14-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheYeti
Nah, most shops can and will order them for you. It doesn't have to be a Surly dealer just you local bike shop.

yeah, but will they order one so you can just look at it ?
:augie

ducnut 02-15-2010 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rajflyboy
ducnut

Nice Bike !!!!!

Thanks. It was the LBS owner's personal/demo bike. Ridden 7 times. I paid about 1/2 price. I really like it.



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Originally Posted by TheYeti
Nah, most shops can and will order them for you. It doesn't have to be a Surly dealer just you local bike shop.

I want to test ride them to make sure I'm headed in the right direction. I want to feel the differences in geometry and frame material.

DoctorIt 02-15-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pierce
yeah, but will they order one so you can just look at it ?
:augie

If you can find that shop, let me know, I'd like to put in an application!

AFAIK, Surly doesn't have true dealers, they sell all their stuff through the Quality Bike Parts catalog. So in order to have them on the floor, a shop has to order the frame and a build kit, paid in full.

ducnut 02-15-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DoctorIt
AFAIK, Surly doesn't have true dealers, they sell all their stuff through the Quality Bike Parts catalog. So in order to have them on the floor, a shop has to order the frame and a build kit, paid in full.

STL has a shop with stock. Also, Old Spokes Home in Burlington, VT has stock (even a Big Dummy), for those in that area.

TheYeti 02-15-2010 11:34 AM

I think I've only bought one bike in the last 30 yrs that I've actuly riden prior to sale. If ya know what size ,and look on the spec sheet for geometry,the cross check is simlar to old race geometry.the top is longer though (old geometry if the frame size was a 60cm the top tube would generlly be 58 or 58.5.

The bike is gonna feel different after you put the saddle and pedals (the model you prefer),and stem length and rise. on it anyway.

The steel is reynolds 4310 it's stiff yet compliant, they're not really light ,but then it's not a race bike either.

Yea, you gonna have to buy it sight unseen, any bike shop worth anything is Not going to sell you a bike,then leave you hanging (there it is, you fit it.)

No LBS is gonna have many, if any steel non race bikes on the floor There is no Market for non race stuff. everybody wants to race,or look like they do.

k7 02-15-2010 05:40 PM

A short ride report - from the deserts near my house
 
Ducnut's report prompted me to take my camera on my next ride and take a few photos. It's hard to believe that we live in one of the larger cities in the US. I specifically chose this part of town for reasons that will become obvious in a photo or two.

First - a photo of our house. We're in a lower-middle-class area and in about 33 payments, our little house will be paid off. The garage is a small two-car and yes, we can pack both cars in it along with two kayaks and a small kayak trailer that takes up only about a 12" deep portion of one wall. You can see the top of the trailer in front of the Camry.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture002.jpg

When I left the house, I was headed towards Pecos Rode with is paved and two lanes each way running east/west. I decided to take a dirt road that runs pretty much parallel to it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture003.jpg

As you come to the end of Pecos, you run out of road and enter an area that's indian reservation on one side and South Mountain Park on the other. Some of this is posted but it's a challenge to know exactly where you are...

The end of the road:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture005.jpg

I decided to follow the power lines as it went over some small hills running towards the Park:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture007.jpg

Once I was on top of the first small pass, I could look back towards the reservation on one side and the Park to the north:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture010.jpg

There are some ruins - a house that burned down and what's left of the barn. I'm likely on the reservation at this point:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture012.jpg

Some of these dirt roads are clean enough to run fairly fast but you have to watch for the washes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture016.jpg

I made my way up another pass and I could see 51st Ave to the west of me and a local road called "Dusty Lane":

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture017.jpg

I came from this way....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture018.jpg

To the east of that, I can barely see a small road that runs into South Mt Park - I think I can make my way down the hill and take that small road to Telegraph Pass - that's for another day though:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Picture019.jpg

That's it - a total of about 12.8 miles in roughly 80 degree temps - a beautiful day.

Oh - for the record, I'll wear short-sleeves polo-type shirts to work this week - it's beautiful here. :evil

TheYeti 02-15-2010 05:52 PM

:dizave Here in the winterfest southeast, have not riden in 3 weeks :cry .I'm thinking tomorrow.

No seriously pretty nice riding.

k7 02-15-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheYeti
:dizave Here in the winterfest southeast, have not riden in 3 weeks :cry .I'm thinking tomorrow.

No seriously pretty nice riding.

From July through early Oct, feel free to ask me how much riding I'm doing - it'll be very little unless I go up north. Just too damn hot here most of the time.

Gummee! 02-15-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by k7
From July through early Oct, feel free to ask me how much riding I'm doing - it'll be very little unless I go up north. Just too damn hot here most of the time.

Our seasons are definitely reversed. :nod

Too bad no one wants to do a winter race series (that I'm aware of). They wanna do it same same as the rest of the country: summer. :bluduh Too farging hot here in the summer to race outside at noon! :huh

I get fat and lazy thru the summer, then trim down thru the winter again as I can go back outside before dark.

M

TheYeti 02-15-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by k7
From July through early Oct, feel free to ask me how much riding I'm doing - it'll be very little unless I go up north. Just too damn hot here most of the time.

:rofl :oscar :hide


But it's a dry heat.

k7 02-15-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheYeti
:rofl :oscar :hide


But it's a dry heat.

So's the heat in my oven - you don't see me sticking my head in there too often. :photog


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