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ROSKO 12-25-2007 10:06 AM

Hack as a racebike transport???
 
Anyone have a hack built to transport a bike? I remember seeing photos of racers transporting their machines to races with a sidecar, just can't seem to find any photos. I am interested in doing something like this, any photos or info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks and the 'hack' section is a welcome addition to the asylum!

birdman 12-25-2007 02:16 PM

Race transport
 
Hey Knacker,
I have toyed with that idea for a while too, having never seen a set-up in person. Might just have to take the chair off Pop's sidecar rig and install a piece of channel.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/5/983...d6575ef4_m.jpg

claude 12-25-2007 05:23 PM

I have hauled solo bikes on a sidecar frame and it works great. Race bikes would do quite well.
I think you may find pictures of bikes being hauled on sidecars by googling 'Pop Dryer' AND/or possibly 'Dual sport Sidecars'. There is a picture of Doug Bingham somewhere on the net actually hauling another sidecar outfit on a sidecar frame...lol. You can contact Doug at Sidestrider.com. and maybe he can lead you to some pics.
Note that all we did for was remove the sidecar body and put a piece of channel aluminum fore and aft on the sidecar frame to run the bike up on. We put the bike on backwards.
Go for it...you will get a lot of double takes from people on the road. Dunno how legal it woudl be to have a passenger on the solo bike during transport. Could be intetreting to see the ones that serve and protect figure out what to write you up for though.
Oh and also be sure to remember that when the solo bike is unloaded you will have a very very light sidecar out there....yee ha!

USMCG_Spyder 12-25-2007 10:26 PM

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ROSKO 12-26-2007 09:11 PM

EXACTLY.

I have an r80g/s w/ r100 top-nd thAt I would love to set-up for that. Except I'd be hauling a vintage roadracer and the tools to go with it. May have to keep an eye out for a sidecar frame....


Thanks new hack section!

Any other photos of rigs like this would be greatly appreciated.

rtwdoug 12-29-2007 05:59 AM

I used my R69S to haul my trials bike (its a '50 Panther Stroud) I got ALOT of looks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...bmwtrials2.jpg

arcticIndian 06-10-2008 01:06 AM

I've been thinking the same.. just need to find the time to assemble/resorte the sidecar..


here's another option.. towing the racebike.
He told me he sometimes had a racebike on the sidecar chassis, as well as the racebike in tow.


http://home.online.no/~344chief/imag...trailsbike.jpg

3legs 06-10-2008 02:08 AM

G'day

There was a guy here in Adelaide back in the 90's who had a zx10 with a chair and he welded a "U" shaped bar to his sidecar chassis and took the front wheel off his race bike and bolted his forks to the bar where his front axle would normally be and put the front wheel in the sidecar with any spares required for racing and just towed the bike behind the chair.

Not sure if he fixed the steering in one spot while he towed it but it did work.

This way you get to keep the chair for stowing race gear.

3legs

Johnny Wolvo 06-18-2008 11:36 AM

Sidecars as bike transporters
 
Hiya, I started my training as a motorcycle mechanic at 15 years of age in the early 50s. We had to wait, doing jobs like cleaning and doing small jobs on bikes until we were 16 before we could get a UK provisional motorcycle driving licence. On my first day out on a bike at 16 years and one day, they had a mechanic ride on the pillion for about two hours to show me the ropes, but by then we had already learned quite a lot about bikes just by working on them. Then we were allowed to drive the Watsonian box motorcycle transporter as our normal job, until we were about 17 or 18. After I was 18 it was my job to fit all the sidecars that the company sold, about two or three per week then, plus doing engine overhauls and other repairs on bikes that they sold. I did this until I left the motorcycle trade when I was 23 to marry my wife Dee, we have been married now nearly 50 years. I shall always remember that Watsonian box sidecar, with a new 1000cc 4G Ariel square four that I had just collected from the Ariel factory at Selly Oak, plus four Cyclemaster wing wheels, 5 gallon of petrol in a can, plus all of the spares that were required back at the depot on board, riding in about 6 inches of snow in the middle of the winter. The box that I first rode had a Norton 600cc Big Four with Road Holder tele front forks and a ridged rear end. The next one was an Ariel 600cc VB with their short link type plunger rear suspension. But when Ariel bought out their 600 cc VB side valve with a swinging arm rear end it was just magic to ride. I went on to build and race sidecar motocross outfits from tubing to race in national and international sidecar motocross for over 20 years. I shall always remember those Watsonian box sidecars. Has anyone got a photograph of the Watsonian box sidecar, made in the early 50s?......They were just great times.

Best regards.........Johnny Wolvo.

Farmer_Ted 06-22-2008 07:31 AM

I never thought about using the Ural as a racer bike mover... Thats awesome! :lol3

Bozola 06-22-2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Wolvo
Has anyone got a photograph of the Watsonian box sidecar, made in the early 50s?......They were just great times.

Best regards.........Johnny Wolvo.

Here's a Brockhouse-Corgi to warm your heart.

Johnny Wolvo 06-22-2008 12:24 PM

Brockhouse Corgi.
 
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Hiya,
Thanks for finding the Corgi sidecar for me, it was the only reference to a Watsonian box sidecar that I could find on the net also.
This sidecar outfit that I made for my son Marc back in about 1965/6. I used a Brockhouse frame forks and wheels, but with a French Mobylet automatic moped engine fitted instead of the Villiers motor, to make it far easier for him to drive, also I made it with much lower handlebars, he was only about 5 or 6 years old.

Regards......Johnny W.

Johnny Wolvo 06-24-2008 12:19 PM

Dave Hemus. sidecar race bike transporter.
 
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Originally Posted by Farmer_Ted
I never thought about using the Ural as a racer bike mover... Thats awesome! :lol3

During going through my old photographs, I found this not very clear one out of a local paper. It is a photograph of Dave Hemus looking very sad having just broken the front frame down tube on his 500cc Matchless motocross bike over a jump. We had just loaded it onto his ES2, or was it a model 18 Norton sidecar outfit? My wife and Dave's friend for some reason think it is quite funny. For some reason we called these outfit Windless, probable because they had very little power with a race bike on the chair. The one I had to take my Greeves to the meetings was a side valve BSA M 21. The photograph is from about 1958 at a track near Walsall in the West Midlands UK. Dave later became a top speedway rider for Wolverhampton.

Best regards.......Johnny W.

H e a d N o r t h 06-25-2008 06:33 AM

How about just towing?
 
http://www.ama-cycle.org/features/20...ullingalot.jpg

Bandit Bill 06-30-2008 09:40 PM

http://www.chairintheair.ca/gallery/...aricata_OK.jpg

http://www.motorglobe.it/noleggio_moto_1.html


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