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DominicDomingo 09-02-2008 11:59 AM

strapping fuel cans to bike? suggestions or better ideas.
 
On a desert ride in Morocco in few weeks my buddies and I will need extra fuel for a few desert track crossings. We only need about 10 l each on two occasions so buying an expensive collapsible fuel bladder is out of the question. I've read a few threads on other sites about using water bags and the like but it seems a bit to iffy to me.
Basically I plan to carefully strap good plastic jerry cans to our bikes, and refill the bike's tanks as soon as there is room. I think that if we take reasonable precautions like not strapping the things to the exhaust and venting pressure buildup from time to time we should be fine.
I realize that this is not an ideal set up for the long haul but we will be out in the sand, there is a likelihood of some wipeouts but there's nothing to big crash into out there.
Any comments?

Lone Rider 09-02-2008 05:19 PM

Maybe purge the pressure if needed.

Tim Cullis 09-03-2008 05:36 PM

There's no shortage of suitable plastic containers sold in hardware stores in Morocco. Consider bringing a collapsable funnel with you.

You'll be using fuel at the rate of possibly 1 litre for every 15-20 km, so the best thing is to stop from time to time and top up the main tank.

When you've finished with the container, stick the top back on and leave it by the side of the piste, someone will be grateful for it.

Tim

bananaman 09-03-2008 07:12 PM

I think yer on the right track. When I carried 10 liters, I put some Teflon plumbing tape on the threads, and duct tape over everything- to keep the caps on and clean.

When yer done we need a ride report with pics!

danman 09-05-2008 04:15 PM

Fuel Packs
 
Hey Dominic,

I bought these, just got them and haven't tried them out. They hold 1.25 U.S. Gallons-about 4 liters, i think--don't know if you can get them in europe. They have a mount that attaches to a pannier and makes them easy to carry, also they make one to carry water (white).

Here is a link to the manufacturer;

http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/pro...uel-packs.html

And here is a retailer;

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=441063

And here is a photo;

OK good luck

Danman

TengaiJohn 09-05-2008 04:44 PM

I like this one http://www.kolpinpowersports.com/pro...fuel-pack.html

Vinnie the Snake 09-14-2008 02:42 PM

My Front Mounted 2-stroke Oil and Motor Oil
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...hed-2006-3.jpg

2ea 1.5 gallon Rear Tanks, with a 4 gallon fuel tank
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-...inBike-002.jpg

Gluaisrothaí 09-14-2008 06:45 PM

DIY from Walmart in Cabo
 
After nearly getting caught fuel-less on the way down here, I've added ocho litros to the bike.

http://klevins.smugmug.com/photos/372627594_xNwe6-L.jpg

http://klevins.smugmug.com/photos/372627389_n4kkn-L.jpg

DominicDomingo 09-15-2008 09:35 AM

Well we're off to Morocco by plane tonight, start riding on Tuesday. Our setup will surely be like Klevin's, I'll post when I get back about how it worked. I'll also make a full ride report.

DD

BozoMoto 09-19-2008 03:55 PM

Short Term Disposable Containers
 
Howdy,

and best of luck on your adventure.

One resource I have used in the past when I know I will need extra fuel between stations is to scrounge through the rubbish for empty oil jugs. You can put about a liter in each one, and bungee them on somewhere, then transfer to your tank when space permits, and skuish-bungee, or dispose of. Its a short term, one time fix, but I,m a cheap bastard.

Paul

DominicDomingo 09-29-2008 02:49 PM

oil jugs
 
Well we're all back in one piece and Bozo you were right on track, in Morocco all non filling station fuel, bought from old men with shacks in the desert, is poured either directly into your tank or sold in motor or vegetable oil jugs. We had the best luck with 4 liter orange cooking oil jugs, we just strapped those bad boys onto our bikes and gave 'er. Two of our bikes were DRZ 400's with stock 10 liter tanks so extra fuel was of the essence.

DD

kta 09-29-2008 03:08 PM

1/2 gallon gatorade bottles have a rib in the middle that makes then real easy to bungee down to anything. I carry an extra gallon like this . . . .

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/...cd09610e0a.jpg

bootzilla 09-29-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kta
1/2 gallon gatorade bottles have a rib in the middle that makes then real easy to bungee down to anything. I carry an extra gallon like this . . . .

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/...cd09610e0a.jpg

Gasoline won't break those bottles down? If they are tough enough to handle it, that is a pretty convienent way to do it. Good tip!

gatogato 09-29-2008 09:02 PM

Putting all that wait on the back of the panniers sounds like a bad idea for the sub-frame. If it is the desert, maybe it will not matter because it is so flat.

DominicDomingo 09-30-2008 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvMtnRider
Putting all that wait on the back of the panniers sounds like a bad idea for the sub-frame. If it is the desert, maybe it will not matter because it is so flat.

We needed more fuel reserves in the desert than in the mountains but we almost always had fuel when we were in the High Atlas. Fuel is a necessity so it must go somewhere. One of the advantages of smaller bottles/cans/jugs for fuel is that you can pack it strategically to distribute weight. Another is that it's actually really easy to top up your main tank from small mouth bottles, so we tended to do it at most breaks.

I have to recommend not anywhere near the muffler though, the thought of turning into a rolling fireball in the middle of desert was always there as I distributed load.


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