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EvilGenius 01-01-2009 07:29 PM

Aviation MegaThread!!!!
With all the recent aviation threads and vast number if armchair top guns here I figured its time for a thread for general aviation talk and interests.

You can post anything related to flight in this thread.

Military/civilian, helicopters, gyros, ultralights, hang gliding, gliders, powered chutes, RC, show us yours/father's/grandfather's/neighbor's/friend's projects, tell us about your careers in commercial and military aviation, ask questions. Anything and everything.

To start things off I'll walk you through the construction of the Fokker D.VII parkflyer my father and brother in-law got me for christmas.

To start you have to install the ailerons on the tips of the upper wing. They use these tin pieces of paper similar to thick wax paper, but more fiberous. You slide them into slots in the wing and flappy pieces and put a couple of dabs of CA glue on them, wait for them to dry, crack'em and you've got a hinge. (The right side is already done, left is still taped in place.)

Next we attach the lower wing to the fuselage.

There we go.

Now for the rear control surfaces.

To attach the horizontal stab I sliced the shrinkwrap off of the top of the attachment point and peel the shrinkwrap off of the same spot on the stab itself. After tracing the area to be peeled, I used a 20w soldering iron to score along the trace marks and make it easier to peel.

Looking good.

Nicely done.

In between the last pic and this one. I ran into a problem. They didn't give me enough of those CA hinges. So I took a 15-20min break to think about my options. As I lounged around chowing down on a peanut butter cup. It struck me. The card stock they put the cups on inside of the package is strangely similar to the paper CA hinges. Just a little thicker and nontransparent. So I washed it off, nuked it for 30sec to dry it out and voila! They work perfectly, in fact, I think they maybe stronger than the regular hinges.

Rear controls assembled!!

Onto the electronics!

Gots me a fancy rimfire motor! :evil

Now to solder on some different connectors to the speed controller to match.

What do you think Gramps?

Looks like it'll work out fine.

Controller goes in along with the reciever and motor.

Motor installed. (Whoa, a little too close.)

A ran into another issue where I needed a special harness to connect the servos in the upper wing to the recievers. After a few days and several failed missions, I was able to swing by the local RC guru and pick one up. Along with a matching reciever crystal so I can use it with my radio.

Unfortunately I forgot to snap some pictures, but you have to install the special harness by using a string already threaded through the wing structure from one servo bay to the other to pull the harness through. Turns out the string wasn't threaded through properly and I lost one end of it inside the wing. So I had to find a way to rethread it.

Hmm.... Maybe out here in the hobby junkyard?

Ah, yes. What's left of my Hanger 9 F22.

But I digress, there's nothing here of use to me.

...Maybe in the garage.


HUZZAH! This'll work nicely.

Onto the string.

...and through the wing. :clap

Wing servos installed.

But in the process I accidentally knocked one of the ailerons off. No problem, Ill just dig the peanut butter cup paper out of the trash. Cut a few small pieces and...




*ahem* Well I did fix it, eventually.

Onto the inside servos!

Time to attach the top wing!

Yes. Yes. Its all coming together!


Now for the landing gear.

Almost there.

DONE! :wings :rayof

Can't wait to get out there and dogfight my father in-law's SE5!

And now I turn the floor over to you folks!

wedgeman 01-01-2009 07:34 PM



well, I got a cool RC helicopter the other day from Big Lots for $15.. Ran great till the battery went dead, it augered in and snapped the tailbone...

ricohman 01-01-2009 07:35 PM

Call me a retro grouch but I still build my RC aircraft from plans and wood......

EvilGenius 01-01-2009 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by ricohman
Call me a retro grouch but I still build my RC aircraft from plans and wood......

I respect those who do a lot. I just wouldn't be able to stomach putting all that effort into and have it up for 5 min before it turns into a lawndart.

DakarNick 01-01-2009 07:42 PM

Just the r/c side of my aviation hobbies for now. Picked this up last weekend:

Parkzone Vapor, .4 ounces, runs on a 1 cell 3.7v LiPo, rudder and elevator. Can do prop hangs, stall turns, loops, high alpha flight, and I can fly it upside down in my work's iWerks (IMax) theater.

Not me, but an idea:
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nofate 01-01-2009 07:42 PM

My BIL gave me a nice calendar for XMess with pictures of WW II planes. Thats aviation related isn't it? :D

Cool thread. It will grow.

Bueller 01-01-2009 07:52 PM

Back when Microsoft used to host Fighter Ace online I was pretty damn good. I could strafe the enemy runway 20 feet off the ground at 250 knots quite accurately, fly off beyond the runway a nautical mile or two, pull an Immelman, and dive right back on the field for another pass. Eventually I got to where I wouldn't even pull the Immelman, I'd just loop and fly upside down about 20 feet off the runway, guns blazing. That was particularly humiliating to the enemy. But ultimately I figured out a better tactic.

The P38 - being a tricycle gear airplane - was capable of massive destruction to my teammates and their airplanes because it shot level on the ground, while every other plane was a tail dragger and couldn't shoot you when on the ground. And let's face it, what can possibly be more fun than friendly fire? So I'd get in my P38, pick one unsuspecting teammate, position myself so I was aimed at his spawning point, and each time he appeared all it took was a couple of seconds of well placed machine gun fire to cause the big bang and subsequent bright flash of fiery death by friendly fire. It was so gratifying! I used to do this over and over, with my teammates screaming at me through the chat window telling me I was ruining their war. Their war? This was MY war! The chatter of my machine guns, the explosions, the anger. Man, did that used to give me a woody. Or a steely, as in blue steel - the cat couldn't have scratched it.

Man, I miss that game. Thanks for the memories!

YamaGeek 01-01-2009 08:22 PM

I fly RC electric Scale models my interest is mainly WWI and pre WWI aircraft.

I also make flight sim models both RC and full scale, I have about 20 models uploaded to RC some recent piccies.

I also did a not very much appreciated sim model for cRaSH and AnnieGS of their Yellow-Bee, I assume they don't want it now...:huh

My full scale stuff is done for Targetware, I'm on the development team for Richthofen's Skies. Something fun I did recently was to make a drivable WWI era Tramp Steamer with a couple of anti aircraft hard points, a Lewis AA MG and a 2 pounder auto cannon. I modeled the steam engine drive using some tweaked flight modelling files. This was originally a static "scenery" file. Now you can get into the cabin and take it for a spin.

Some of my RS aircraft. I've just recently finished an RAF RE8 and FE4,
and I'm working on a FE2b and a Farman F40. I also have about a half dozen pre WWI pioneer aircraft.

I have a big data base of model images on another website but unfortunately when they're linked here, they only last a couple of hours before being deleted or something..:cry I'm tired of transferring stuff to photo bucket....:puke1

McCormack 01-01-2009 08:56 PM

This thread is making me miss Red Baron 3D. I loved that game :cry.

Klay 01-01-2009 09:02 PM

I play with FS2004 almost every day.

Bake 01-01-2009 09:21 PM

I have 32 years in aircraft manufacturing, with the last 15 in Tool Engineering and AOG parts fab. One of my favorite planes I have worked on from start to finish is the Mustang. I think we're up to full production of this plane now, at 150 per year, at $3.2M each.

ADVMax 01-01-2009 09:24 PM

DAMN Bake!

That sumbitch is suhWEET! :thumb

wedgeman 01-01-2009 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bake
I have 32 years in aircraft manufacturing, with the last 15 in Tool Engineering and AOG parts fab. One of my favorite planes I have worked on from start to finish is the Mustang. I think we're up to full production of this plane now, at 150 per year, at $3.2M each.

that whole battery story---was that for one of these planes?


dang sweet ride..

YamaGeek 01-01-2009 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by dmf109
This thread is making me miss Red Baron 3D. I loved that game :cry.

It's actually still being played. There's a ton of new free add-ons. Check out this link, if you still have your old RedBaron3D game CD, upload the latest version of The Western Front Patch from SWWISA's archives.

GreaseMonkey 01-01-2009 09:58 PM

Right seat view

Front view

Transferred from some slides that I re-discovered this summer.

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