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Fe Man 11-09-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLuke (Post 17267318)
Car tire.

Don't ask.


Off his Miata no doubt!

ttpete 11-09-2011 01:16 PM

The only excuse to run a car tire on a solo bike that I can think of is that car tires are cheaper than proper motorcycle tires.

Aussijussi 11-09-2011 01:18 PM

I rode a friends 1200 Bandit awhile ago and was wondering why it was so hard to 'wrestle' into to the curve's. When i got back from my ride i had a look at the back tyre and it was well worn in the middle, hardly at all on the side's, frigging awfull to ride. With a car tyre in the back, it's not a motorcycle any more, better off with side car outfit!

scooteraug02 11-09-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarysharkface (Post 17267722)
Car tires? I would imagine that once you lean it over enough that the contact patch isn't going anywhere it can get exciting pretty fast..

On the Goldwing if you lean over much more you drag metal.

All I'm saying is I saw it, I tried it and it works pretty well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAKEZ (Post 17267628)
^^^ See. The dumbsider defenders have arrived. :1drink

It works. What's your point?
They are using run flats too!

Ritalin Boy 11-09-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17268892)
On the Goldwing if you lean over much more you drag metal.

All I'm saying is I saw it, I tried it and it works pretty well.



It works. What's your point?
They are using run flats too!

Yup, to each their own. There are a bunch of Iron Butt Rally guys that swear by the car tire. They're the same ones who hate twisties because they're "too slow." They say you can't make time on the twisties.

joenuclear 11-09-2011 04:56 PM

You probably DON'T want to research this on any of the touring bike forums since you don't want to hear that big heavy bikes can make the car tires perform very well on a bike.

Back to the sand.... insert head.

mike 11-09-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttpete (Post 17268423)
The only excuse to run a car tire on a solo bike that I can think of is that car tires are cheaper than proper motorcycle tires.


that, and they will last a hell of a lot longer.:1drink

DAKEZ 11-09-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike (Post 17270789)
that, and they will last a hell of a lot longer.:1drink

And believe it or not they are made of a softer compound. :deal
(with few exceptions)

Meromorph 11-10-2011 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarysharkface (Post 17267709)
Yeah, I would expect the grill to be caved-in as well. Of course, it's possible that it was out of gear or clutched as the body hit the windscreen, or that could just be downhill.. Icky, sad situation regardless.

John

If you follow the supplied links, the second one explains...
The second truck had started to overtake the first truck after the crash, and then decided not to and started reversing back into his own lane, when he was hit by the second bike, and then the third..

SUVslayer 11-10-2011 09:27 AM

This thread's useless without pictures
:*sip*

bwalsh 11-10-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritalin Boy (Post 17269111)
Yup, to each their own. There are a bunch of Iron Butt Rally guys that swear by the car tire. They're the same ones who hate twisties because they're "too slow." They say you can't make time on the twisties.

I could see this if you only ride on interstates or out in the mid West where all the roads go straight for miles, 90° turn, then straight for another ten miles or more.

Maybe this guy was linking two interstates via the gap? :lol3

Offcamber 11-10-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUVslayer (Post 17274629)
This thread's useless without pictures
:*sip*

:clap:lurk

zDollar Bill 11-10-2011 11:47 AM

Faster in the trailer than most slayers...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SUVslayer (Post 17274629)
This thread's useless without pictures
:*sip*

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hA9NoHE7BL...0/img_2716.jpg

joenuclear 11-10-2011 01:02 PM

Oh no! Those weren't car tires on that trailer were they?!

Aussijussi 11-10-2011 01:11 PM

I like the way the ' moto hound' leans into the bend, great stuff:D

Skyclad 11-10-2011 01:14 PM

And it appears that he is looking through the turn. Well trained indeed:clap

Aussijussi 11-10-2011 01:18 PM

And he is wearing his hi-viz vest, but where is his lid?:D

JDLuke 11-10-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joenuclear (Post 17276112)
Oh no! Those weren't car tires on that trailer were they?!

Flat profile tires make absolutely perfect sense for a trailer that does not lean into turns.

Blur 11-10-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDLuke (Post 17276810)
Flat profile tires make absolutely perfect sense for a trailer that does not lean into turns.

Shirley he was joking..... :loco

JDLuke 11-10-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17276953)
Shirley he was joking..... :loco

The question is at whose expense. As he is clearly taking the side of using automobile tires (based on earlier postings) the sarcasm in his post seems directed at those who think rounded profile tires make the most sense for a two track vehicle.

Blur 11-10-2011 03:43 PM

Live and let live, I always say. If he wants to declare "I'm a cheap dumbass", then nothing does that better than a car tire on a motorcycle.

Well, except for duct tape....

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ab3NRut64X8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

joenuclear 11-10-2011 03:44 PM

I was getting the jump on those who would say only trailer tires should be on trailers......

Actually the whole car tire thing is disturbing because those who are sure that it's wrong are getting in the way of those who are doing it successfully.

bomber1965 11-10-2011 04:55 PM

http://image.motorcyclistonline.com/...right_side.jpg

less talk....more pictures.

http://www.600rr.net/gallery/files/4/6/0/0/09379.jpg


:lurk

Photog 11-10-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17277259)
Live and let live, I always say. If he wants to declare "I'm a cheap dumbass", then nothing does that better than a car tire on a motorcycle.

Well, except for duct tape....

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ab3NRut64X8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Jeebus. Talk about "traction budget".... :rofl

Sutherngintelmen 11-10-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomber1965 (Post 17277747)

:thumb

He's strong! :lol3

Blur 11-10-2011 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Photog (Post 17277878)
Jeebus. Talk about "traction budget".... :rofl

AND he'd get better traction if he put the sticky side out!! Dur dur dur.....

SUVslayer 11-10-2011 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17277259)
Live and let live, I always say. If he wants to declare "I'm a cheap dumbass", then nothing does that better than a car tire on a motorcycle.

Well, except for duct tape....

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ab3NRut64X8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Wow. That just reinforces every cliche about dumb Southern hicks. Sunbelt states are gonna spend millions of taxpayer dollars trying to undo what this video has done to their reputation. :1drink

scooteraug02 11-10-2011 05:32 PM

Stirring the pot. The car tire can't lose grip in a turn because the foot pegs grab the asphalt holding the bike on the road.

http://gmill1.webs.com/photos/GL1800/A2903858a-1.JPG
http://cdn.content.compendiumblog.co...90d1_w640.jpeg
http://sportbike.natkd.com/Tires/contact%20patch.jpg

EvilClown 11-10-2011 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17277259)
Live and let live, I always say. If he wants to declare "I'm a cheap dumbass", then nothing does that better than a car tire on a motorcycle.

Well, except for duct tape....

<IFRAME src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ab3NRut64X8" frameBorder=0 width=420 height=315 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>

Everybody knows yer 'sposed to wrap the tape in the opposite direction of 'driven' rotation so it stays on longer.:1drink

Dumbass.

joenuclear 11-10-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17278018)
Stirring the pot. The car tire can't lose grip in a turn because the foot pegs grab the asphalt holding the bike on the road.

http://gmill1.webs.com/photos/GL1800/A2903858a-1.JPG
http://cdn.content.compendiumblog.co...90d1_w640.jpeg
http://sportbike.natkd.com/Tires/contact%20patch.jpg

Dayum! According to the pic of the wing and your graphics the car tire has more contact. Thanks!

Boatman 11-10-2011 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilClown (Post 17278096)
Everybody knows yer 'sposed to wrap the tape in the opposite direction of 'driven' rotation so it stays on longer.:1drink

Dumbass.

Yup!!! :wink:

RonkoRider 11-10-2011 07:51 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095691375.jpg

Wait a second- so rather than administer to one of the three guys hurt, this dude whips out his camera and starts taking pics? There's a rider under a truck here. :baldy

This photo belongs in the WTF thread.:bluduh

DingDangKid 11-10-2011 08:00 PM

What about the 4-5 guys standing by the truck while a guy lays 5ft away on the hood presumably unconscious?

42 11-10-2011 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpencerCompton (Post 17279021)
What about the 4-5 guys standing by the truck while a guy lays 5ft away on the hood presumably unconscious?

No one knew that Bo was under the truck :dunno

scooteraug02 11-10-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpencerCompton (Post 17279021)
What about the 4-5 guys standing by the truck while a guy lays 5ft away on the hood presumably unconscious?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 42 (Post 17279066)
No one knew that Bo was under the truck :dunno

Maybe it is a matter of triage. Bo and Jason aren't going to benefit from first aid?

DingDangKid 11-10-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17279203)
Maybe it is a matter of triage. Bo and Jason aren't going to benefit from first aid?

I'm going to assume that's sarcasm.

scooteraug02 11-10-2011 08:46 PM

http://www.farson.com/images/dg1.jpg
http://www.farson.com/images/dg2.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095690779.jpg

250senuf 11-10-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17278980)

Wait a second- so rather than administer to one of the three guys hurt, this dude whips out his camera and starts taking pics? There's a rider under a truck here. :baldy

This photo belongs in the WTF thread.:bluduh

Keep in mind that the picture shows 1/100 of a second (just a guess, it's probably even less). Having read more about this pic rest assured that the situation is well in hand. Nobody died.

scooteraug02 11-10-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grackle (Post 17266278)

This gets eerie. Look at the name of the first poster from your link then match it here with the second name on the list.

His post answers all the questions raised about the picture.

This is a shot taken at the scene of the accident, mere seconds after
the crash. 'Bo' (lower left corner, *UNDER* the truck), is the new CBR
600RR rider that overcooked the corner and proceeded to lowside and
wedge himself *under* the Chevy.

The older white Ford in the photo veered into the oncoming lane to go
around the wreck, decided against it, and started backing down the hill.
This is where Jason (Duc rider, Springfield Police Officer) met the
truck,
1/2 way around the corner. Jason jumped from the bike just
before impact, and ended up with his head/shoulder through the
windshield. Paul (following behind Jason) hit the old Ford as well,
though didn't sustain as much damage.

Luckily the other riders knew enough not to move ANYONE, so they left
Bo under the truck, and Jason on the hood. Bo might lose his right arm;
the doctors haven't decided yet. Jason was conscious the whole time,
but understood not to move. Good thing. He's got a fractured C7
vertabra (I think the same thing that happened to Christopeher Reeves).

lemieuxmc 11-10-2011 09:46 PM

Let's hope that they got vasectomized at the E.R. :eek1

Sutherngintelmen 11-11-2011 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemieuxmc (Post 17279551)
Let's hope that they got vasectomized at the E.R. :eek1

:photog

PFFOG 11-11-2011 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpencerCompton (Post 17279260)
I'm going to assume that's sarcasm.


Absolutely NOT, in a multiple victim accident where there are limited first aid resources, the FIRST thing you do is evaluate all the victims and put your efforts where they have the chance to do the most good. No sense on starting CPR on someone who may not revive, when you have someone bleeding severely and going into shock. The 2nd may be saveable.

A mass casualty is when ever victims exceed personal, so it can be as few as 2 victims, and the FIRST thing you do is quickly evaluate all victims, and help those that can be helped, that MIGHT mean letting someone die, if you feel your efforts have a better chance of saving another. YUP, EMS personal sometimes have to decide who will die.

BenFongTorres 11-11-2011 06:56 AM

Talk about wide in a corner...

http://www.whatsonchengdu.com/news_i...74374a_5-1.jpg

DingDangKid 11-11-2011 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFFOG (Post 17280574)
Absolutely NOT, in a multiple victim accident where there are limited first aid resources, the FIRST thing you do is evaluate all the victims and put your efforts where they have the chance to do the most good. No sense on starting CPR on someone who may not revive, when you have someone bleeding severely and going into shock. The 2nd may be saveable.

A mass casualty is when ever victims exceed personal, so it can be as few as 2 victims, and the FIRST thing you do is quickly evaluate all victims, and help those that can be helped, that MIGHT mean letting someone die, if you feel your efforts have a better chance of saving another. YUP, EMS personal sometimes have to decide who will die.

So your telling me if I arrive at a MVA seconds after it has happened(which is when the photo was taken) I should chat with my buddies, having my back turned to a man in severe pain? I am not saying they should have tried to immobilize him but why not attempt to calm him and prevent/delay the shock to set in.

Then there is Bo, I find it hard to believe that nobody knew he was under the truck. Didn't the driver realize he hit somebody or what about the guy lifting up Paul's bike? There is so much shit wrong with this picture, hopefully somebody had their license revoked and the bi-standards went home and signed up for a first responders course at their local community college.

BenFongTorres 11-11-2011 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpencerCompton (Post 17281183)
So your telling me if I arrive at a MVA seconds after it has happened(which is when the photo was taken) I should chat with my buddies, having my back turned to a man in severe pain? I am not saying they should have tried to immobilize him but why not attempt to calm him and prevent/delay the shock to set in.

Then there is Bo, I find it hard to believe that nobody knew he was under the truck. Didn't the driver realize he hit somebody or what about the guy lifting up Paul's bike? There is so much shit wrong with this picture, hopefully somebody had their license revoked and the bi-standards went home and signed up for a first responders course at their local community college.

bi-standards, eh? What difference does their sexuality make? LOL :lol3

DingDangKid 11-11-2011 07:04 AM

oops, what's the point of spell check if you chose the wrong word. Bystanders is what I meant.

DAKEZ 11-11-2011 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpencerCompton (Post 17281183)
So your telling me if I arrive at a MVA seconds after it has happened(which is when the photo was taken) I should chat with my buddies, having my back turned to a man in severe pain? I am not saying they should have tried to immobilize him but why not attempt to calm him and prevent/delay the shock to set in.

You are ASSuming too much from a still. How do you know that they had not already done that and the guy with his head through the windshield had already acknowledged that and the next ignorant dweeb ran up and said: "Let's get him lifted down off the truck" ... And is now being chastised by the smart one? It looks to me like they are discussing what could and should be done next.

Not saying that is what happened but it is more likely than your scenario. :1drink

Boon Booni 11-11-2011 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17278980)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095691375.jpg

Wait a second- so rather than administer to one of the three guys hurt, this dude whips out his camera and starts taking pics? There's a rider under a truck here. :baldy

This photo belongs in the WTF thread.:bluduh

Since I know fuck all about how to administer first aid/cpr or what ever the hell was needed at this scene, I imagine most folks would prefer that I shoot photos from afar instead of fucking someone up even more than they are with my hands on skills.

DAKEZ 11-11-2011 07:52 AM

Good answer! :clap

chainslap 11-11-2011 08:07 AM

There were some links posted that if read would break down the accident scene more accurately.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
This happened in Ark. not on the dragon. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Bo was being attended to from folks near the rear of the vehicle. He had a severed artery, and from reading the story, the pressure of the vehicle on top of his injured parts may have actually saved him from bleeding out on the scene. <o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
The photog was with the group. And as can be seen there are enough “responders” working the scene already. It was worded that he try and document as much as possible for all parties involved. <o:p></o:p>

SUVslayer 11-11-2011 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17281533)
Since I know fuck all about how to administer first aid/cpr or what ever the hell was needed at this scene, I imagine most folks would prefer that I shoot photos from afar instead of fucking someone up even more than they are with my hands on skills.

Boy, that looks horrific.
I don't know anything about what happened or what lead up to this wreck. But at first blush, if 3 bikes are down at the same scene, it looks like someone didn't plan on contingency. It's one main reason I avoid group rides. Everyone likes to ride way too close for my comfort, leaving no room to think for myself and ride my own ride.

ttpete 11-11-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFFOG (Post 17280574)
Absolutely NOT, in a multiple victim accident where there are limited first aid resources, the FIRST thing you do is evaluate all the victims and put your efforts where they have the chance to do the most good. No sense on starting CPR on someone who may not revive, when you have someone bleeding severely and going into shock. The 2nd may be saveable.

A mass casualty is when ever victims exceed personal, so it can be as few as 2 victims, and the FIRST thing you do is quickly evaluate all victims, and help those that can be helped, that MIGHT mean letting someone die, if you feel your efforts have a better chance of saving another. YUP, EMS personal sometimes have to decide who will die.

In the military, triage in a mass casualty situation means separating patients into 3 groups: 1) Those who can wait for treatment. 2) Those who need immediate treatment to survive. 3) Those who won't make it no matter what is done.

Group 3 patients are just set aside.

anotherguy 11-11-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17278980)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1095691375.jpg

Wait a second- so rather than administer to one of the three guys hurt, this dude whips out his camera and starts taking pics? There's a rider under a truck here. :baldy

This photo belongs in the WTF thread.:bluduh


That's an instant in time,maybe 1/250th of a second. There are several people in movement during that instant. Give them some credit. Perhaps they have not yet figured out the guy is pinned under the truck. A big incident like that is confusing as hell and surely it happened quickly.

RonkoRider 11-11-2011 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17281533)
Since I know fuck all about how to administer first aid/cpr or what ever the hell was needed at this scene, I imagine most folks would prefer that I shoot photos from afar instead of fucking someone up even more than they are with my hands on skills.

Sorry dude but I still say shame on you. Even if you don't know CPR, calling 911, simply talking and trying calming a bud down, etc would be much more productive in my mind.

Going to the aide of a mate in trouble jumps to my mind way before take a picture for posterity.

We can agree to disagree. I would highly recommend you and your guys take a basic first aid or CPR course.

bwalsh 11-11-2011 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17282637)
I would highly recommend everyone take a basic first aid or CPR course.

Fixed!

feathered 11-11-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17282637)
Sorry dude but I still say shame on you. Even if you don't know CPR, calling 911, simply talking and trying calming a bud down, etc would be much more productive in my mind.

Going to the aide of a mate in trouble jumps to my mind way before take a picture for posterity.

We can agree to disagree. I would highly recommend you and your guys take a basic first aid or CPR course.

There's often a point where what you can do to help is take pictures. It's not just some frivolous glamour shot "for posterity", it's about documenting the accident. It could be the difference for your friend in court.

At an accident, you need to secure the scene first, and then see about aiding people. Securing the scene means, among other things, that you assess who's there, who is in need and, and what you can do to help. It's not that much of a stretch to imagine a situation where the best thing for YOU to do is take photos.

scarysharkface 11-11-2011 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feathered (Post 17283215)
There's often a point where what you can do to help is take pictures. It's not just some frivolous glamour shot "for posterity", it's about documenting the accident. It could be the difference for your friend in court.

At an accident, you need to secure the scene first, and then see about aiding people. Securing the scene means, among other things, that you assess who's there, who is in need and, and what you can do to help. It's not that much of a stretch to imagine a situation where the best thing for YOU to do is take photos.

This is exactly true. An incompetent responder can easily do more harm than good.

scooteraug02 11-11-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17282637)
Sorry dude but I still say shame on you. Even if you don't know CPR, calling 911, simply talking and trying calming a bud down, etc would be much more productive in my mind.

Going to the aide of a mate in trouble jumps to my mind way before take a picture for posterity.

We can agree to disagree. I would highly recommend you and your guys take a basic first aid or CPR course.

This is from the original poster:

Luckily the other riders knew enough not to move ANYONE, so they left
Bo under the truck, and Jason on the hood. Bo might lose his right arm;
the doctors haven't decided yet. Jason was conscious the whole time,
but understood not to move. Good thing. He's got a fractured C7
vertabra (I think the same thing that happened to Christopeher Reeves).


Can't you hear the lawyers?.... So in your expert opinion doctor my clients Bo and Jason would not be quadriplegics today had Mr.Boonbooni left them alone?

You've heard the testimony today that Mr Boonbooni's experience in CPR and First on Scene care is:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17281533)
Since I know fuck all about how to administer first aid/cpr or what ever the hell was needed at this scene.

Boon Booni is correct to be careful in our litigious society. The picture probably helps more so he does what he thinks will help, takes a picture.

I came across an accident once. A 27 year old girl was ejected from a pickup. She was on the ground screaming her ass off. Friends of hers were holding her down, blood was coming from her mouth. Her husband had a gash 4" long above his ear. A puppy was dying next to the girl and another dog was wedged under the seat. I suggested the husband take it easy and not walk around. He asked me to help free the wedged dog. I did free the dog, handed it to him and it took off like the devil was chasing him. I went after the dog but never found it. I got back to the scene and the GHP was on scene as was a helicopter. The puppy was dead. The GHP officer was rude to me and told me to GTFO.

If they are breathing, not bleeding and conscious it's better to wait for the experts IMO. Doctors and EMTs don't care if you are comfortable or in pain unless the pain tells them something. Airway Bleeding and Circulation.

PT Rider 11-11-2011 11:53 AM

Securing the scene includes directing traffic to avoid more mayhem.

Good Samaritan laws generally protect anyone helping the injured. The laws vary by jurisdiction, but "The responder is not legally liable for the death, disfigurement or disability of the victim as long as the responder acted rationally, in good faith and in accordance with their level of training" is a general rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

lemieuxmc 11-11-2011 12:39 PM

Now that we have gotten a little more background on the situation, I can't fault him for taking photos.

The pain from your injuries is nothing compared to the pains in your ass you'll get later when all of the legal hits the fan.

Check out the "Run over by a lawnmower" thread, and he was barely hurt.

devo2002 11-11-2011 12:56 PM

This is about the third pic in the last two weeks where commentators here jumped on their high horses and judged an entire scenario from one picture and were rebuffed when the people in the picture came here to offer the full story.

It provides a good lesson that a picture can tell a thousand words, just don't trust the accuracy of those words.

ricochetrider 11-11-2011 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devo2002 (Post 17283784)
This is about the third pic in the last two weeks where commentators here jumped on their high horses and judged an entire scenario from one picture and were rebuffed when the people in the picture came here to offer the full story.

It provides a good lesson that a picture can tell a thousand words, just don't trust the accuracy of those words.

it also provides another good lesson- one that some people may NEVER learn no matter what- namely,
STFU and get your mouthy judgmental ass down off your high horse. anyone who wasn't there has NO business even trying to

A: decipher what happened
B: tell someone who WAS there what they SHOULD have done

all you fuckin "armchair experts" oughta remember
it is far better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

dbuzz 11-11-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUVslayer (Post 17281783)
Boy, that looks horrific.
I don't know anything about what happened or what lead up to this wreck. But at first blush, if 3 bikes are down at the same scene, it looks like someone didn't plan on contingency. It's one main reason I avoid group rides. Everyone likes to ride way too close for my comfort, leaving no room to think for myself and ride my own ride.

^^^^^ this ^^^^^

I've given up on group rides after seeing too many near misses made by fools with a throttle in one hand and their dick in the other. No manners, no roadcraft, and no commonsense :(:

DAKEZ 11-11-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17282637)
Going to the aide of a mate in trouble jumps to my mind way before take a picture for posterity.
.

Don't ever go on dual sport rides our here... Unless you have a bone sticking out or copious amounts of blood spraying it is cameras first here. :lol3

bwalsh 11-11-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricochetrider (Post 17284655)
it also provides another good lesson- one that some people may NEVER learn no matter what- namely,
STFU and get your mouthy judgmental ass down off your high horse. anyone who wasn't there has NO business even trying to

A: decipher what happened
B: tell someone who WAS there what they SHOULD have done

all you fuckin "armchair experts" oughta remember
it is far better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


I can't believe anyone would get that much spittle on their keyboard over such minor nonsense.

Show me one quote from this thread from someone who was at the accident scene.....I didn't see any.

You are quick to judge with your dumbass verbal attack but the truth is you don't know what the hell you are talking about so you should heed your own words.

I'll tell ya one thing though, you certainly live up to your user title...:lol3

scmopar 11-11-2011 06:36 PM

ok next pick to pick apart please:pierce

scooteraug02 11-11-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scmopar (Post 17285904)
ok next pick to pick apart please:pierce

Can we post or are we still in trouble :jive


http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photog..._hoot_heed.jpg
http://bp3.blogger.com/_FOR5R1ET2Gk/...ow-leaning.jpg
http://www.tailofthedragon.com/photo...ragon-9-18.jpg

British truck drivers.

http://tailofthedragon.com/pics2008/Bear.jpg
http://www.us129photos.com/images/stories/Weekly/14.jpg

melville 11-11-2011 08:52 PM

How'd you get two pix of Gold Wings and then think immediately of trucks on the Dragon? :D

The GWs appear to be ridden competently. The truck, not so much.

Blur 11-11-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17286460)


This dumbass obviously doesn't know WTF he's doing..... look at the clutch!!... he's only covering it with ONE FINGER!!!!

n00b!!!!!

CheesyRider 11-11-2011 09:01 PM

I'd give an arm and/or a leg to ride like that guy.

Scalpel 3000 11-12-2011 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17286460)

Jesus, that bear is not only on the wrong side of the yellow line, he's also lost all traction on his back paws. What a menace!

:D

rokipynes 11-12-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scalpel 3000 (Post 17287351)
Jesus, that bear is not only on the wrong side of the yellow line, he's also lost all traction on his back paws. What a menace!

:D


Obviously is lacking ABS.:evil

Beto 11-12-2011 06:26 AM

Another Darwinian Couple
 
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mNbnwt0VwX...0/img_5373.jpg

Tepi 11-12-2011 07:02 AM

Seems to me the BMW is on the wrong lane too...

as for the two goldwings, well the riders are counterleaning, so there goes the competence down the drain.

mhpr262 11-12-2011 07:06 AM

Those GoldWing pictures remind me of a wonderful image in a strip ín the "Motomania" comic series by German cartoonist Holger Aue, I wish I could find it online somewhere...

the strip was about a guy admiring his friend´s brand new Gold Wing and being allowed to go for a short ride after being warned about the limited lean angle.

When he returns he says sth like yes, you were right about the lean angle, but it got better after a while...

and then you see the bike, with the fairing, exhaust, pegs and panniers completely ground away, laid open and the edges still glowing red, like one of those cutaway demonstration models you sometimes see...:rofl

scooteraug02 11-12-2011 07:33 AM

I looked up Deals Gap images and the truckers always come up. They say it looks like a good shortcut to a trucker who is unfamiliar, just looking at a map, but it doesn't work well for most 18 wheelers.

http://shops.venditio.com/moto-vs/i_...ist-rechts.jpg More Motomania

Patrol 11-12-2011 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto (Post 17287902)

It's asinine riding like this that leads to guys getting punched out at the Deals Gap cafe/motel (dear yellow Ducati rider, I still feel bad about it. Hope you've learned how to ride, asshat).

Beto 11-12-2011 08:07 AM

How about....
 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TsZORZW8PR...0/img_6022.jpg

Beto 11-12-2011 08:09 AM

"Because We Care"
 
and speaking of trucks....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KSbMYYDr_4...0/img_2778.jpg

scooteraug02 11-12-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto (Post 17288426)

Seriously he could be a Brit.

I would be afraid to ride a bike alone in England. I am sure I would end up riding in the right lane and having a head on.

Beto 11-12-2011 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17288525)
Seriously he could be a Brit.

I would be afraid to ride a bike alone in England. I am sure I would end up riding in the right lane and having a head on.

Exactly what I thought when I saw this....

Beto 11-12-2011 09:17 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lIuc8axVtZ...0/img_2210.jpg

GI_JO_NATHAN 11-12-2011 09:36 AM

I don't get it. I ended up on I think it was 209 coming out of Hot Springs. There's a huge yellow sign coming out of the town that says the road is restricted to trucks shorter than like 30 ft.

cardoctor1 11-12-2011 10:09 AM

this was the only sign warning truckers about the dragon.

Beto 11-12-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardoctor1 (Post 17289122)
this was the only sign warning truckers about the dragon.

found this on a Google search:

Why are trucks even allowed on the Dragon?
US 129 is a <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1:STREET><ST1:ADDRESS>Federal Highway </ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET>. Unless it is absolutely impossible for large trucks to make the corners the authorities are hesitant to restrict such traffic. The nearest routes over the mountains are at some distance. I-40 is 50 miles to the north and US 64 is 40 miles to the south. Both are prone to closings because of rock slides. In late 2009 both were closed at the same time for several months. Truck traffic is not allowed over US 441 through the <ST1:PLACE><ST1:PLACENAME>Great </ST1:PLACENAME><ST1:PLACENAME>Smoky </ST1:PLACENAME><ST1:PLACETYPE>Mountain </ST1:PLACETYPE><ST1:PLACETYPE>National Park. </ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE>We do see a few trucks come over the Cherohala Skyway, but since on a map it is only a <ST1:STREET><ST1:ADDRESS>State Route,</ST1:ADDRESS></ST1:STREET> it is not usually considered by truckers.
To the unsuspecting driver US 129 looks like a good route between <ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE>Knoxville </ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>and north <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><ST1:PLACE>Georgia </ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>. Once they see how twisty it is they are committed to keep going because there is no place to turn around. The warning signs recently placed on each side of the Dragon just do not get the attention of some truck drivers.


from here: http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon_faq.html

Beto 11-12-2011 10:55 AM

On a lighter note....
 
... a couple of "picks" from the Tail... (well... not exactly the Tail)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MMLQjhIbMP...0/img_2452.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J9uNcZqM2-...0/img_3546.jpg

D R 11-12-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto (Post 17289332)
... a couple of "picks" from the Tail... (well... not exactly the Tail)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J9uNcZqM2-...0/img_3546.jpg

Her experssion just seems to say... "He's picking his nose again, isn't he?"

Aghartha 11-12-2011 11:24 AM

How cute, they are wearing matching jeans.

tokyoklahoma 11-12-2011 12:22 PM

HMmmmmm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joenuclear (Post 17265574)
Passed or met?

M E T !

I thought it was pretty well implied. :huh

scooteraug02 11-12-2011 12:45 PM

Road King Crossing the double yellow 318 times in 11 miles
 
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PUkbgl-r_B0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IoIZb9C_5-M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Boon Booni 11-12-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI LT Owner (Post 17282637)
Sorry dude but I still say shame on you. Even if you don't know CPR, calling 911, simply talking and trying calming a bud down, etc would be much more productive in my mind.

Going to the aide of a mate in trouble jumps to my mind way before take a picture for posterity.

We can agree to disagree. I would highly recommend you and your guys take a basic first aid or CPR course.


Since I mostly ride alone, you got any courses for performing CPR on yourself?

Aussijussi 11-12-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beto (Post 17289332)
... a couple of "picks" from the Tail... (well... not exactly the Tail)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MMLQjhIbMP...0/img_2452.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J9uNcZqM2-...0/img_3546.jpg

Didn't think i'd live to see a fucking cup holder on a bike, s'pouse it's ok, he is on the correct side of the road at least:huh

bwalsh 11-12-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17289860)
Since I mostly ride alone, you got any courses for performing CPR on yourself?

Your not on the bike 24/7 are you? It comes in handy other times too! The life you save may be someone elses.

That reminds me. I need to get re-certified.

pretbek 11-12-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17289860)
Since I mostly ride alone, you got any courses for performing CPR on yourself?

Find a fist-sized rock or stump and belly-flop your upper sternum onto it about 120 times per minute, for as long as you need to until your heart beats again.

Boatman 11-12-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrol (Post 17288231)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mNbnwt0VwX...0/img_5373.jpg

It's asinine riding like this that leads to guys getting punched out at the Deals Gap cafe/motel (dear yellow Ducati rider, I still feel bad about it. Hope you've learned how to ride, asshat).


But he's got the straight pipes so you can hear him coming.... :lol3

scarysharkface 11-12-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17289860)
Since I mostly ride alone, you got any courses for performing CPR on yourself?

Cough, really hard. Seriously.

Boon Booni 11-12-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarysharkface (Post 17291917)
Cough, really hard. Seriously.

I'm not checking for hernias :huh

250senuf 11-12-2011 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by scarysharkface http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net...s/viewpost.png
Cough, really hard. Seriously.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Booni (Post 17292097)
I'm not checking for hernias :huh

I've heard this too. Cough, REALLY cough and cough some more.

Or die.

Savoir-Faire 11-12-2011 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooteraug02 (Post 17289855)
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PUkbgl-r_B0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dear God, I could only watch for about 30 seconds of the first video. "Who says Harleys can't take curves?". This guy's inability to hold any sort of line is embarrassing. What's even worse is that he thinks it's evidence of his skills.

Shoot. Me. Now.

dirtrulz 11-12-2011 08:54 PM

I honestly dont seee the great draw to ride this road. Too many people, idiots on wrong side of the road pretending it is their personal race track trying to kill you and cops handing out tickets like candy. The chance to ride a bunch of corners is not worth the money or my life.

There are a couple of roads like that incolorado that have been ruined by becoming popular. Now thy are full of jacka$$es and cops.


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