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windmill 06-06-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtDuster (Post 16098147)
Maybe you can enlighten us then, our ears are wide open :ear

Don't tell me that they take this road just for the fun of it.


Taking a road like the dragon will double fuel consumption compared to more suitable routes, add a hefty fine to that and your working for free. Drivers are payed by mileage biased on legal tariff routes, there's no benefit to shaving or padding miles. Companies can't force a driver to violate hours of service rules, traffic laws, or use prohibited routes.

Driver and company infractions are monitored by the DOT, any evidence of repeated intentional violations would get the driver or company suspended by the DOT. Operating on prohibited roads, without proper permits or authority is serious business, they don't fool around.

One time I got lectured by a concerned citizen that a large double trailer semi like I was driving had no business on "his" road, I didn't bother to tell him that it was a load of portland cement to be used in the process of rebuilding "his" road. Funny how some folks pass judgment without even knowing where the truck is going, what it is carrying, or why it is on a particular road.
Goods and materials don"t magically appear in towns on small back roads, they come in by truck.

DireWolf 06-06-2011 05:19 PM

Those trucks simply need to learn trail braking by downshifting at the corners.

LuciferMutt 06-06-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 42 (Post 16097088)
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Yes. I remember reading somewhere that even if some truckers are fined a sizable sum by the THP for using that route, they still end up making a tidier profit by the time saved.


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You never drove a truck. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

And have no idea what you are talking about.

I never claimed I did or do! The Dragon IS a shortcut though -- so why are truckers choosing to take that route rather than another road that adds quite a few hours to the trip? More time for hookers and blow?

baloneyskin daddy 06-06-2011 07:41 PM

They also have to blip the throttle.:lol3

250senuf 06-06-2011 08:04 PM

But do they countersteer?? :evil

SgtDuster 06-06-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 42 (Post 16099337)
tidier profit by the time saved.

:deal

I know they are paid for the mileage but could you explain to us why they take this road then?

Few options of my own:

1. They get paid for the mileage taking this shortcut into account; maybe not a "tidier" profit but an "even" profit at least.

2. The contract doesn't take the shortcut into account so they save few miles and time. Win win scenario.

3. The money is irrelevant because they are payed for actual mileage but their time is valuable; so they save something by taking the dragon.



Why the hell would they take the chance otherwise?


I don't really care what the reasons are...but you can't come here naming someone an idiot without any further informations to back up your claim.

42 06-06-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtDuster (Post 16102219)
I know they are paid for the mileage but could you explain to us why they take this road then?

?

I am willing to bet that most of the truckers you see in these pics are first timers (on this road).
If I got on a road this tight I would make sure I never went on it again.

dwoodward 06-06-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gelandestrasse (Post 16084540)

The link goes to a website warning about trucks and the Dragon. Out west, that sign would read "Trucks over 35 feet knigpin to axle PROHIBITED next XXX miles"'

Originally, it may be much smaller commercial vehicles paid for that road to be paid. Now those taxes get used (in Oregon) to pave bypasses.

EddMc 06-06-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dwoodward (Post 16102371)
Out west, that sign would read "Trucks over 35 feet knigpin to axle PROHIBITED next XXX miles"'

This was my first thought when I saw those truck there. I remember last year a trucker got a huge fine for trying to go over McKenzie pass.

windmill 06-06-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtDuster (Post 16102219)
I know they are paid for the mileage but could you explain to us why they take this road then?

Few options of my own:

1. They get paid for the mileage taking this shortcut into account; maybe not a "tidier" profit but an "even" profit at least.

2. The contract doesn't take the shortcut into account so they save few miles and time. Win win scenario.

3. The money is irrelevant because they are payed for actual mileage but their time is valuable; so they save something by taking the dragon.



Why the hell would they take the chance otherwise?


The short simple answer,

If it is a long haul truck load truck.
They got really lost/confused, getting off the interstate freeway system will ultimately waste time, effort and money unless the destination is in the area. Shortcuts in a semi are a fools errand.

If it is a local short haul LTL truck.
It may be both the origin and destination are local to the area.

In the 20+ years of being a truck driver, I have been in some crazy remote places, its never easy or fun, but sometimes it has to be done.

gelandestrasse 06-07-2011 05:43 AM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3...0/img_8257.jpg

Savoir-Faire 06-07-2011 01:25 PM

:rofl

That guy is so screwed.

anotherguy 06-07-2011 05:01 PM

I would like to see the next few seconds.

gelandestrasse 06-07-2011 05:11 PM

He saves it!
 
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Originally Posted by anotherguy (Post 16108714)
I would like to see the next few seconds.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/...0/img_8257.jpg
http://bp0.blogger.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/...0/img_8258.jpg

anotherguy 06-07-2011 07:36 PM

Solid skills and presence of mind. Or the end of an ass kicking streak of luck. Me I'd take either one.


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