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gelandestrasse 09-02-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thelovebutcher (Post 16771276)
Well, I learned to ride in Europe; Greece originally. We were taught to use the entire road, depending on traffic and conditions of course. I still cross lines today, not because I'm too slow or not riding correctly, I just always straighten my corners where-ever possible and of course where I won't get caught....:rofl Now this guy, looks not like what I would be doing......

Had you learned to drive in Italy you would have been taught to use the entire road, the sidewalk and the commuter rail tracks. You would also have learned that traffic signals and signs are suggestions for others, and they don't apply to you in any way.

IheartmyNx 09-02-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thelovebutcher (Post 16771276)
Well, I learned to ride in Europe; Greece originally. We were taught to use the entire road, depending on traffic and conditions of course. I still cross lines today, not because I'm too slow or not riding correctly, I just always straighten my corners where-ever possible and of course where I won't get caught....:rofl Now this guy, looks not like what I would be doing......


Seen UK police practicing high speed pursuits, and the instructor said "now there's no traffic, go ahead and move into the middle of the road".

Makes perfect sense to me to use all the road (we still pay taxes on both sides, right?), sight-lines permitting... Broke pavement and dips are usually off to the shoulder, and being in the middle gives you more time & space to recover. No sense in being to the side if you don't have to be.

IheartmyNx 09-02-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Moore (Post 16770493)
Didn't Chuck Berry sing a song about that?


:rofl Yes he did... Used both hands too...

klaviator 09-02-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gelandestrasse (Post 16771502)
Had you learned to drive in Italy you would have been taught to use the entire road, the sidewalk and the commuter rail tracks. You would also have learned that traffic signals and signs are suggestions for others, and they don't apply to you in any way.

I have done quite a bit of driving in Sicily and enjoyed it quite a bit. There people will routinely pull out and pass with traffic coming the other way. The car being passed will move over to the right as will the car coming the other way, leaving just enough room in the middle of the road for the car doing the passing. I don't recall seeing any silly double yellow lines but then it's been a while since I was there.

I have also been to Korea. The drivers there are way more aggresive than the Italians:eek1

ttpete 09-02-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LuciferMutt (Post 16770840)


They'll take baby ducks and geese, too. They just disappear as they're paddling along......

Range Motorsport 09-02-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gelandestrasse (Post 15941608)
Aqua-man and this guy need to get together.
http://www.tailofthedragon.com/slaye.../explosion.jpg

A classic from the Skyway.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...00/CamPic7.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0/CamPic10.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...0/CamPic12.jpg

dmn0507 09-02-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gelandestrasse (Post 16771502)
Had you learned to drive in Italy you would have been taught to use the entire road, the sidewalk and the commuter rail tracks. You would also have learned that traffic signals and signs are suggestions for others, and they don't apply to you in any way.

Nobody taught me that... but, if traffic is too heavy i don't mind being creative :D

@klaviator I wouldn't rely on other drivers if i need some extra room to overtake...

klaviator 09-03-2011 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dmn0507 (Post 16774843)
Nobody taught me that... but, if traffic is too heavy i don't mind being creative :D

@klaviator I wouldn't rely on other drivers if i need some extra room to overtake...

I don't pass with oncoming traffic but it was nice to see drivers being so accommodating to drivers who were passing. unlike so many drivers/riders in the US.

Who knows, if I lived in Sicily long enough maybe I would start doing it. I certainly wouldn't depend on US drivers.

Jamie Z 09-03-2011 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by klaviator (Post 16774926)
I don't pass with oncoming traffic...

In Latin America, Asia (at least where I was in China) and rural parts of Texas, passing into oncoming traffic is no big deal. Traffic moves over to make space for a "center" passing lane.

But that's not the Dragon.

Jamie

JoeyBones 09-04-2011 12:32 PM

318 curves, 11 miles, and 1 broken collar bone (at least) yesterday - some guy coming the other way ran wide. Coulda been worse, I guess.

http://joeybones.smugmug.com/photos/...-N2tvwq8-M.jpg

On another note, I will never go back on a holiday weekend. I knew it would be bad but on my one-way pass through the Gap (TN > NC) as part of a larger trip I spent most of the 11 miles in second gear.

slartidbartfast 09-04-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyBones (Post 16782686)
... my one-way pass through the Gap (TN > NC) as part of a larger trip I spent most of the 11 miles in second gear.

What's the f***ing point :dunno

JoeyBones 09-04-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slartidbartfast (Post 16782876)
What's the f***ing point :dunno

Well, the other 754 miles of my three-day, four-State, break-in-the-new-Russell-Day-Long weekend loop were awesome!

MoBill 09-04-2011 01:36 PM

Joey, glad it wasn't your collar bone...

JoeyBones 09-04-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MoBill (Post 16782966)
Joey, glad it wasn't your collar bone...

Thanks Bill. Please let me know the next time you head down to this part of the world so we can ride some twisty's together...

slartidbartfast 09-04-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyBones (Post 16782906)
Well, the other 754 miles of my three-day, four-State, break-in-the-new-Russell-Day-Long weekend loop were awesome!

So you had a nice long ride, spoiled with disappointment by "The Gap"

Reflects my experience and I was there on a weekday! There was a long trail of what appeared to be cooking oil through every single corner and I was told all about the 17 police cars that had been writing tickets on the TN side the weekend before. Enjoyed chatting with people at the overlook and enjoyed riding the Cherohala Skyway so it wasn't a wasted day.


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