The problem with these pictures is that we only get a hint of what's going on. The rider might be in the process of hanging off and the picture only captured the beginning.

There is also the fact that BMW's ride different than other bikes (Telalever came about due to sever shaft-jacking). My old Boxer required very smooth inputs and I always maintained you can always tell a BMW rider by the way he sits on the Bike.

Anyway, IMO a BMW rider can't be held to the same criteria as other riders due to the demands of the bike.

Some riders like to use a dry-erase marker to make notes to themselves. Usually, routing notes like, 129NB, 321EB...or maybe place/time for a meeting. Saves having to look down at a tank bag note. And the rider's vision in concentrated just above the windscreen. So the 'note to self' really doesn't interfer with riding. Whatever it is. It is probably backwards to our POV.

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With apologies to Rod Stewart, "Ev'ry picture tells a[n incomplete] story, don't it?":D

Chris

Early flight training includes "turns about a point". As I recall, the standard required for the student to pass is to make a smooth, standard turn using 45 degree bank. Early on, that amount of banking seems uncomfortable. Once the student learns to trim the pressures off the stick, the turn becomes more natural.

For the commercial ticket, the standard becomes 60 degrees of banking.

Same principle in banking a bike. Successful mastery of this skill requires training and practice. The student must first learn to do it correctly through training, then master the skill through practice.

The human tendency to maintain a vertical orientation must be overcome to succeed in flying or riding.

NFE

Body position needs to be set up well in advance of the corner. Thus I take the pic to be the body position intended for the turn. Bike is already leaned over so rider is in position as far as I can tell..

Hmmmm? My understanding is the Tele-lever was necessary to control the front end due to the severities induced by the first generation ABS. Telescopics did not do the kind of job that the factory engineers wanted for their ABS. The stop-start brake action of ABS caused too much flex and too much harmonic in tele-forks to let the ABS work well. Also, the design helped keep the front end from nose-diving at hard braking. Shaft-jacking was somewhat controled by some sort of "Para-lever"(?) drag link, iirc?

"Anyway, IMO a BMW rider can't be held to the same criteria as other riders due to the demands of the bike." Thanx for the laugh. That was great. That KILLS. I am going to use it on all my beemer budds. This forum never lets me down. Priceless. Thank doG that you didn't include a follow-up line as I would have spewed coffee on my keyboard thru my nose. As it was, you nearly had me with just that one. Sorry, I can't find an emoticon that is laughing while wiping tears from its eyes. Good one. Might be a good sig line for some of us. This one is so good as to make me wonder why I don't collect these sayings? If there is a collection of these in Jo Mama, somebody add this one, please. Thanx again. I luv ya for that one. And I have got the rest of saturday to look forward to.

Agree... if his head shoulders were further inboard of his hips, the bike would be more upright. They aren't so my guess is the overall angle of the bike is unchanged from no hanging off to the hanging off you see, which is having zero positive effect far as I understand.

Barry

I just heard about this... Hopefully it will be the end of pictures like this:

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/photo.../cal2_0903.jpg

"BULLETIN: North Carolina has done what Tennessee won't do ...... ban trucks heading to the DRAGON. It is now illegal for trucks longer than 30 feet to operate on US 129 anywhere from US 19/74 all the way to the NC/TN State Line. They are also banned on NC 28 from NC 143 all the way to US 129. Also on the ban list is the entire Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina.

New signage will be erected to advise of the Restrictive Routes."

His body is to the right of the centerline of the bike so he is keeping the bike more upright. What makes this picture misleading is that his head tilted to the left to keep it level with the horizon. It doesn't look like this slight shift would make a big difference but when you look at how close he is to dragging hard parts, even 1 degree makes a difference.

The rear looks kinda like a Dunlop D402. The standard 16" tire for most HD models for, like, forever.

Yeah, but what kind of oil is he running? :D


1911fan

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I'm all for no trucks over 30' from the dam north through the gap, but not allowing any bigger trucks into Robbinsville AT ALL, not even from19/74 is getting harsh. :huh

I see higher prices in town coming. I haven't seen many gasoline tanker trucks under 30' !

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Delivery trucks=OK
Thru trucks=NO

BULLETIN: North Carolina has done what Tennessee won't do ...... ban trucks heading to the DRAGON. It is now illegal for trucks longer than 30 feet to operate on US 129 anywhere from US 19/74 all the way to the NC/TN State Line. They are also banned on NC 28 from NC 143 all the way to US 129. Also on the ban list is the entire Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina.