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Blur 01-11-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ShardPhoenix (Post 17726191)
It's almost mind boggling to think that nobody has thrown out the completely ABSURD hypothesis that just maybe, he rode the bike through some grass just before the picture was taken?

I mean, who the hell rides their bike in the GRASS. That's like, riding it off road or something. Preposterous.

Riding offroad is dangerous.

100mpg 01-11-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scottie boy (Post 17722122)
I understand the "don't give a damn, ride it not polish it" mindset but that is just stupid. He's doing it for attention.

yep. reminds me of this pic

http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFil...1/80564083.png

100mpg 01-11-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ShardPhoenix (Post 17726191)
It's almost mind boggling to think that nobody has thrown out the completely ABSURD hypothesis that just maybe, he rode the bike through some grass just before the picture was taken?

I mean, who the hell rides their bike in the GRASS. That's like, riding it off road or something. Preposterous.

are you crazy?

Beto 01-11-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17726523)
I met Smitty for the first time at Daytona Bike Week earlier this year, but Id first seen him there with his bike, Rat-1, several years earlier. The 62-year old long-time biker from Flat Lick, Kentucky has missed only one of the annual events since he bought his machine in 1976.

http://travelingringo.com/2011/12/th...lick-kentucky/


From linked web page.

Smitty featured the "Enthusiasts" section of current HOG magazine. That pic spanned a whole 2 pages. Very interesting story.

ibafran 01-11-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kbetts (Post 17721902)
Basically, you are so jaded from too much time on the internet you can't even appreciate an honest comment and ask yourself "why would he say that?"

Having owned a boxer for many years, I was saying that you can't hang off quite the same as you would your typical in-line four......it requires a different riding style.......

BECAUSE: Torque from the horizontally opposed motor physically rotates the bike on it's longitudinal axis. On the gas in a right hander equals deeper lean, off the gas equals less lean. Left handers are opposite.

But don't let me stop you from running off with the wrong impression thinking you know everything and you're better than everyone else.

My experience on boxers has been different. Any torque reaction resulting from a change in throttle position while the bike is in contact with the pavement and leaned over in a turn is easily compensated by steering. The steering leverage on a boxer is so great as to render engine torque reaction while leaned over in turns essentially moot. The boxer motor is a huge air pump and slightly rocking the throttle on and off thru neutral throttle position will vary the bike's speed markedly. I suspect that you could be confusing steering and lean due to the difference in engine drag with the bike's torque reaction.

By way of illustrtation, a boxer will descend Pike's Peak's switchbacks nicely without ever needing to touch the brakes. The boxer's engine braking is that good. The typical inline four does not have near the boxer's engine drag. The inline four rider will close the throttle and still need some brakes to match the deceleration of the boxer on closed throttle alone. On a flat turn with the boxer leaned over well, closing the throttle a little will markedly decelerate the bike hard enough as to make the rider think that the engine's torque reaction is the cause of any percieved instability. Boxers generally require and reward smooth throttle control during turns as the engine gives so much braking force. So, you are correct that the boxer is more sensitive to throttle position change mid-turn than the typical inline four. But, I do not believe that engine torque is the problem.

The only time that I have experienced boxer engine torque giving me difficulties is when the bike is airborn during jumps. Having the engine gain or lose RPM when the bike leaves the ground will have the bike barrel roll while being ballistic. Opening/closing the throttle will control some of the roll mid-flight. Really, really poor traction like ice or really slick mud will have similar problems with torque reaction.

I apologize for my attitude. I hardly know everything and am rarely better than anyone on anything. I do not believe that boxers require a different riding style than any other bike. They do reward a deft touch.

ShardPhoenix 01-11-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 100mpg (Post 17726695)
are you crazy?


Yes, completely insane. Even more so than my speculation about why there could be grass on the tires of a bike that's near some grass.

Beto 01-11-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ShardPhoenix (Post 17727376)
Yes, completely insane. Even more so than my speculation about why there could be grass on the tires of a bike that's near some grass.

like.... grass right outside his "garage"...

http://travelingringo.com/wp-content...2/DSC_3058.jpg

http://travelingringo.com/wp-content...2/DSC_2990.jpg


:clap:clap:clap

Offblnz 01-11-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 100mpg (Post 17726654)

I'm okay with that.

TrashCan 01-11-2012 05:52 PM

aaaaaaaaaahh the ole grassy knoll, now it is all clear.


:D

ShardPhoenix 01-11-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17727629)
aaaaaaaaaahh the ole grassy knoll, now it is all clear.


:D

Color me shocked!

:wink:

:lol3

i_4ce 01-11-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Beto (Post 17727598)
like.... grass right outside his "garage"...

http://travelingringo.com/wp-content...2/DSC_2990.jpg


:clap:clap:clap

Fail: In all the pics, his jeans are way to clean.

100mpg 01-11-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ShardPhoenix (Post 17727376)
Yes, completely insane. Even more so than my speculation about why there could be grass on the tires of a bike that's near some grass.

:lol3 Any one that can come to the conclusion that the grass on the tires came from riding in the grass....well, I won't repeat it

100mpg 01-11-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by i_4ce (Post 17729172)
Fail: In all the pics, his jeans are way to clean.

That bike is a giant piece of shit. You can call it art or what ever you like but it is only a giant piece of shit that exists only to call attention to the owner. Look at me, please ask me about my bike and all the shit on it so I can be the center of attention. He might have stories, but I bet they ALL started with someone coming up to him to ask about that giant piece of shit motorcycle. pa-lease.

Other then also being a dangerous piece of shit, I don't care what he does and I hope he has a great life and lives a long time. If it makes it happy, then that's good for him, but it does nothing for me. It is not art.

Bill Harris 01-12-2012 12:09 AM

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You can call it art or what ever you like but it is only a giant piece of...
One man's art is another man's junk. The guy's been doing it long enough (and well enough) to call him the real deal. He's certainly more true to himself than some of the squids on crotchrockets or the geezers on scooters we've seen in this thread.

I, myself, usually wash the bike once a year whether it needs it or not and delight in showing up at Harley Chromefests in a grungebike... :eek1

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...runge_bike.jpg

NC Scott 01-12-2012 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Beto (Post 17718706)
King Rat "Smitty"

(not a Dragon pic tho)


http://travelingringo.com/wp-content...2/DSC_3053.jpg

This bike was built by Paul Jr. Designs. It is the "American Pickers" theme bike.

Very innovative. They really hit it out of the park with this one.


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