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DC2wheels 01-26-2012 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17836316)
Dammit! Forgot to watch! :baldy

Other than seeing Killboy and Killgurl interviewed (briefly) the short pieces of riding footage were nothing special at all. Discovery spent more airtime covering tractor trailers and the danger associated with long vehicles and very tight turns.

(But it did get me very itchy to be back out on the road)

I thought the segment on the mountain road blasted through by Chinese locals using mostly hand labor was much more interesting.



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Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17836316)
But it's Discovery so they'll probably play it 100 times this next week. :lol3

It was just an OK show, so if you miss it, no big deal (no pun intended)

Bikehigh 01-26-2012 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Blur (Post 17836316)
Dammit! Forgot to watch! :baldy



But it's Discovery so they'll probably play it 100 times this next week. :lol3

Nope http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedule...4144.26478.0.0

GoGo Gadget 01-26-2012 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bwalsh (Post 17835108)
What is their reasoning for riding in formation. I doubt there is a good reason except to "look" uniform and becausem"we told you to".

One advantage when on patrol (and it is minor) is that the lead motor (on the left) only has to monitor the left quadrant looking for violators while his partner can concentrate on the right. So it splits the duties. A little more importantly is that they can communicate easier next to each other via voice and hand signals. More importantly than that, there are times when doing large escorts where you will need to many motors to safely control the procession. If you have 20-30 motors riding spaced out, it takes up too much room and lengthens the entire procession. The longer that is, the more disruptive to traffic it is and less safe it is. So by riding in pairs routinely, it makes herd riding more routine as well. When you do it enough and get very used to your riding partner, it is very comfortable and routine. If they were to ride staggered all the time, then the times when they need to ride in a tight herd (parades, escorts, etc) it would be less safe since it is not routine.

Make sense?

TrashCan 01-26-2012 06:19 AM

News that an "unforeseen road hazard" caused the accident


Potentially dangerous duty

Even under ideal conditions, motorcycle escorts can be potentially deadly.

At least 10 officers have died nationwide while performing motorcycle escorts. That includes the February 2008 death of Dallas Senior Cpl. Victor Lozada, who was killed after losing control of his motorcycle during an escort of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton when she was a presidential candidate campaigning in the area.

In light of the risks, White also questioned whether the motorcycle escorts are worth it for Dallas officers.

"Maybe there is a point in time when we stop doing the escorts for these political people," White said.

GoGo Gadget 01-26-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17836835)
Potentially dangerous duty

Even under ideal conditions, motorcycle escorts can be potentially deadly.

At least 10 officers have died nationwide while performing motorcycle escorts. That includes the February 2008 death of Dallas Senior Cpl. Victor Lozada, who was killed after losing control of his motorcycle during an escort of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton when she was a presidential candidate campaigning in the area.

In light of the risks, White also questioned whether the motorcycle escorts are worth it for Dallas officers.

"Maybe there is a point in time when we stop doing the escorts for these political people," White said.


It is very dangerous. Motorcycles are the third leading cause of officer deaths behind shootings and car crashes.

TrashCan 01-26-2012 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GoGo Gadget (Post 17836861)
It is very dangerous. Motorcycles are the third leading cause of officer deaths behind shootings and car crashes.




News that an "unforeseen road hazard" caused the accident

I am only talking about escorts, where there is no oncoming traffic, or blind turns.

GoGo Gadget 01-26-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17836888)
News that an "unforeseen road hazard" caused the accident

I am only talking about escorts, where there is no oncoming traffic, or blind turns.

Ok, are we agreeing that escort duty is dangerous or are you trying to accomplish something else?

Ritalin Boy 01-26-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ginger Beard (Post 17833532)
Considering some of the post from the curmudgeons in this thread, a prehistoric birth date helps too! :lol3


Oh snap. :lol3

geg 01-26-2012 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17836888)
News that an "unforeseen road hazard" caused the accident

I am only talking about escorts, where there is no oncoming traffic, or blind turns.


I guess "foreseen" hazards don't cause crashes... so much for heightened situational awareness.

TrashCan 01-26-2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by geg (Post 17837067)
I guess "foreseen" hazards don't cause crashes... so much for heightened situational awareness.


What I am saying is, motorcycle escorts are much more dangerous than riding the Dragon.

GoGo Gadget 01-26-2012 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17837117)
What I am saying is, motorcycle escorts are much more dangerous than riding the Dragon.


LOL. Gotcha. Yeah, I guess you are right. I have probably had more "Oh Shit!" pucker moments on escorts. Although you are wrong about no blind turns, oncoming or cross traffic on escorts. There are, and that is usually where the trouble comes in.

TrashCan 01-26-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GoGo Gadget (Post 17837208)
LOL. Gotcha. Yeah, I guess you are right. I have probably had more "Oh Shit!" pucker moments on escorts. Although you are wrong about no blind turns, oncoming or cross traffic on escorts. There are, and that is usually where the trouble comes in.



My only reference would be watching two Presidents being escorted, not the setup.:thumb

Now to leave CSM...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3...0/img_9444.jpg

jeepinbanditrider 01-26-2012 07:56 AM

:huh

daveinva 01-26-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashCan (Post 17837246)

One day, this won't end well.

GoGo Gadget 01-26-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by daveinva (Post 17837404)
One day, this won't end well.

At least she does not have to worry about being flipped off the back when he does a wheelie.


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