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PFFOG 04-24-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by windmill (Post 15750343)
Passing in no passing zones is legal?

I rarely have trouble with faster or slower folks, I try to maintain a harmonious relationship with the road and other motorists rather than force an extreme ether way. Whats the point of riding if it's an exercise in frustration? Wouldn't that be a hint as to where the real problem is?

Courtesy is something to be accepted graciously, not demanded.

and again,
Why does the desire to go fast trump all others desires?

Why should those who choose to go fast be exempt from changing their behavior also?

Where did I ever advocate passing on a double yellow? You keep assuming I am a speeding lawless squid, that is totally inconsiderate, I suggest you go back and read my posts.

I will make you a deal, (as this is my MO anyway), I will not run up your tailpipe if you will kindly give me the opportunity to go on my way at MY pace, not yours.

DAKEZ 04-24-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by windmill (Post 15749101)

Why does the desire to go fast trump all others desires?

Why should those who choose to go fast be exempt from changing their behavior also?


Already answered. :D

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=788

dolomoto 04-24-2011 08:40 PM

I think slower riders (no matter the road) should move to the right of their lane and maintain their speed...to allow marginally faster riders by.

The folks who're going warp speed need to be on a track so they can get their ego in check...for the rest of us..common road courtesy is key.

If a rider refuses to yield (move to the right)...well, then...your fate is cast.

If the faster rider can move around the slower rider, giving a wide berth, not endangering oncoming riders, etc....IOW, nailing it to get around the slower rider...well, then do it.

The street is NOT the racetrack. The so-called "Dragon" used to be called "Deals Gap" or "US 129"...there's no reason to make this an unfriendly place since there are SO MANY great roads in the area.

I say, Let the wanna-be's and leather and fringe crowd have Deal's Gap. I promise not to tell them about places like Wayah Bald and rt 194 out of Banner Elk.

Deal's Gap has jumped the Shark Tank...I still visit for old time's sake though.

YMMV.

windmill 04-24-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PFFOG (Post 15750815)
Where did I ever advocate passing on a double yellow? You keep assuming I am a speeding lawless squid, that is totally inconsiderate, I suggest you go back and read my posts.

I will make you a deal, (as this is my MO anyway), I will not run up your tailpipe if you will kindly give me the opportunity to go on my way at MY pace, not yours.

If your not making illegal passes or exceeding the speed limit, yet have enough trouble with slow riders for this to be an issue, I'm glad I don't ride where you do, there must be a lot of really slow folks there.

As I have said, I will accommodate folks who want to pass when safe to do so, just don't demand me to do it at your pace. I hope that you are not suggesting that you will ride up the tailpipe of somebody who doesn't yield soon enough to suit you.

Are you equally willing to accommodate others? or does your pace always come first?

windmill 04-24-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ (Post 15750906)

When I am actually out riding, I rarely if ever have trouble with slow pirate parades, warp speed squids or most folks for that matter. Yet some get very emotionally wound up about these types of riders, claiming they are a constant nuisance.

It isn't what they choose to do, fast or slow that I question, but their unwillingness to see things from the other guys point of view and maybe be willing to find a compromise. After all, folks who seem to have serious issues with what others do seem to be in the minority.

DAKEZ 04-24-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by windmill (Post 15751247)
After all, folks who seem to have serious issues with what others do seem to be in the minority.

...And let us hope it stays that way. :beer

windmill 04-24-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dolomoto (Post 15751073)
I think slower riders (no matter the road) should move to the right of their lane and maintain their speed...to allow marginally faster riders by.

The folks who're going warp speed need to be on a track so they can get their ego in check...for the rest of us..common road courtesy is key.

If a rider refuses to yield (move to the right)...well, then...your fate is cast.

If the faster rider can move around the slower rider, giving a wide berth, not endangering oncoming riders, etc....IOW, nailing it to get around the slower rider...well, then do it.

The street is NOT the racetrack. The so-called "Dragon" used to be called "Deals Gap" or "US 129"...there's no reason to make this an unfriendly place since there are SO MANY great roads in the area.

I say, Let the wanna-be's and leather and fringe crowd have Deal's Gap. I promise not to tell them about places like Wayah Bald and rt 194 out of Banner Elk.

Deal's Gap has jumped the Shark Tank...I still visit for old time's sake though.

YMMV.

This thread makes me thankful that we have a lifetime supply of roads far more interesting than the dragon here in the PNW.

I've yet to see even one squid or pirate on my favorite road.

DAKEZ 04-24-2011 09:35 PM

Blessed in the Northwet
 
Even the paved gems are squid free. :1drink

http://dakez.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...9_HWWWd-XL.jpg

windmill 04-24-2011 09:56 PM

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Even the paved gems are squid free. :1drink

Yup.:clap

Wheedle 04-24-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ (Post 15751432)
Even the paved gems are squid free. :1drink

Plenty of squid-free pavement in the SE too... not 15 min from 'The Dragon'...

http://wheedle.smugmug.com/Motorcycl...dc14041-X2.jpg

gelandestrasse 04-25-2011 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HammerMacGreed (Post 15750644)
I think we're all ignoring the most important aspect of this...cheap parted out crash bikes and possible street fighters on Ebay:lol3

http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squi....IMG_6709W.jpg

Moving Pictures 04-25-2011 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WW Ronin (Post 15749522)
Despite all the posturing I suspect most here will allow someone faster to pass and can also pass a slower rider safely with a modicum of control. [...] I still stand by my position though that if you can't control your bike well enough to stay in your lane, then you are an :asshat

Agreed entirely.

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Originally Posted by dolomoto (Post 15751073)
The folks who're going warp speed need to be on a track so they can get their ego in check...for the rest of us..common road courtesy is key.

If a rider refuses to yield (move to the right)...well, then...your fate is cast.

The little levers at the right foot and right hand, along with the little signal indicating a pull-over works for everybody. Or should. While discussing this thread with The Lady yesterday (during a minor 200km ride to a nearby diner) I recalled some uberfunky stretch of road ... can't remember WHERE ... that had a pair of slow-moving RVs that would go at a snail's crawl through the corners, but were separated by just enough distance that it made passing on what little straight sections there were entirely unsafe.

So I pulled over at the side of the road, had a snack, whizzed in the trees and pondered life for a half-dozen minutes, waiting until the slow-motion tourists were done with the road, and then enjoyed it at my pace.

Oh, and for the ad-hominem folks that suggested others like myself holding the same view were posers for suggesting safe on-highway speed, I retort that my version of "risk" is a bit different. No, I didn't pass on any double-yellows yesterday, but I did take almost 1,000 pound of two-up monster down mud- and gravel-laden roads in conditions that might have made the occasional four-by-four driver grimace. Yeah, I might Muttpark the bike, but at minimal speeds where my risk of injury to self is minimal, and the risk to others is zero.

I guess my values are quasi-pagan. If it harm none, than what the heck.

rivercreep 04-25-2011 04:18 AM

This thread makes me want to visit the Dragon...
 
...but I'd only do it in a Dump Truck so I could be safe.
Anyone think I'll have enough room to let faster vehicles go past?
Oh, and I'll paint the truck neon green to make sure every one sees me too.:evil (maybe even add a blinky light or two)

pretbek 04-25-2011 08:04 AM

Windmill, DAKEZ, Wheedle: Thank you for the road porn. :clap

Terrytori 04-25-2011 08:07 AM

Riding some roads are like going to the beach... everyone congregates near the parking lots and food stands.
This makes me incredibly happy as it means that there are dozens
of nearby roads i get to have to myself.

The south shore of Nova Scotia is often brilliant... like Laguna Seca with
an ocean view.

t.


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