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Shov3BR 11-06-2010 02:39 AM

Weatherproof USB Power Ports
 
Lots of discussion about USB powerports in the Gear>Equipement forum here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...488530&page=11

We thought it was time to let all you inmates know about 3BR Powersports stuff including both 12V and USB power ports. The TAPP Lite USB port has all the extras that the others lack - strain relief at the cable exit, fully jacketed cable, easy peel and stick universal mounting bracket, fuse holder with fuse and battery ring terminals. All this adds less than the cost of a tank of gas over the "strippers".

http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...54_ncPGQ-S.jpg

Here's a TAPP Lite installed on a Ducati Monster (not exactly an ADV Bike but it mounts the same).

http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...97_Q8U2k-S.jpg

Stop by www.3brpowersports.com and have a look at the goodies.

It's a little early for this but power ports make great Christmas gifts. Low cost, easy to wrap and super useful. Keep us in mind.

Rabbitson 11-06-2010 03:04 AM

Looks good for us techno nuts :)

How much are they? (can you ship them to Europe?)

Shov3BR 11-06-2010 10:29 AM

TAPP Lite
 
US$32.95

We are too new to have shipped to Europe but we checked out shipping software and it's all automated so it shouldn't be a problem. The shipping weight is very low so they go US Postal Service for $3 in the states. Shouldn't be too much more to the other side of the pond.

RABBITSON - Are you up for being the test case? If so we will offer a 10% discount on a TAPP Lite and pay shipping for this test. This is a bit of a gamble for us since we don't know what the shipping cost will be but it will be worth it to get the experience.

http://www.3brpowersports.com/products_TAPP.htm

matics 11-08-2010 12:45 AM

Any plans to make one that can charge an iPad? You'll need to output 2.1A.

Shov3BR 11-08-2010 08:00 AM

Weatherproof USB Powerport
 
Yes. Our original TAPP was a 1.5A port. Unfortunately just as we were going to market the low cost USB power ports became available. Since TAPP is made in USA we couldn't compete on price so we pulled it back.
We are in the process of redesigning the circuit to provide the 2.1A that the Made For iPAD (MFi) spec calls for. We are hoping to have it released by January. Pricing should be less than $40. Will this work for you?
BTW this site http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4049?viewlocale=en_US indicates that 1.1A should be sufficient to charge iPAD since that is all that the high power Apple products can put out. We have a few 1.5A TAPPs from the production pilot run. They should work if you want to try one. Let me know and we can work out some Beta test pricing.

Here are some pics. Notice it is weatherproof as are all of our products.

http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...68_2Qy6X-S.jpg TAPP includes mtg bracket, cable & fuse holder with fuse. The mtg bracket is simple peel & stick 3M VHB and will fit any surface from round to flat and everything in between.

http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...11_hrgmB-S.jpg TAPP mounted on my HD Road King. TAPP Pivots around its center for best cable angle.
http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...25_77nMJ-S.jpgTAPP powering my Motorla Droid (1.1A). Note that I have pivoted TAPP to point the cable forward for this pic.

LoneStrom 11-15-2010 09:32 AM

What about water issues when the plug is in use? Any risk of short/failure when I'm charging my ipod or running my GPS and it's raining?

Or more likely, when I'm dumping it in deep water?

craftycoder 11-15-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStrom
What about water issues when the plug is in use? Any risk of short/failure when I'm charging my ipod or running my GPS and it's raining?

Or more likely, when I'm dumping it in deep water?

For those of us with CanBUS shorting shouldn't be a worry should it? I think it isolates the short and prevents any thing major from happening. You will just need to shut off the bike to reset the circuit. If you connect straight to the battery, well you better put a fuse in between or :kboom

LoneStrom 11-15-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craftycoder
For those of us with CanBUS shorting shouldn't be a worry should it?

Yeah exactly, but I'd like to have the CanBus just control the switched power to an accessory fuse block where the USB socket would be wired. So in that case I'd be reliant on a traditional fuse.

Waterproof is good when you're not using it, but I'd like to make sure that there aren't any problems with use in the rain/wet.

craftycoder 11-15-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStrom
Yeah exactly, but I'd like to have the CanBus just control the switched power to an accessory fuse block where the USB socket would be wired. So in that case I'd be reliant on a traditional fuse.

Waterproof is good when you're not using it, but I'd like to make sure that there aren't any problems with use in the rain/wet.

Two things come to mind. One, CanBUS limits total current to 5 amps (i think) so you won't be able to run much other than the GPS so a fuse block may not be needed. Second, mount the usb port pointing down. I think you'll be fine then unless you take a swim, which is my forte not yours :evil.

Shov3BR 11-17-2010 09:39 AM

Weather/waterproof USB Port
 
Good points on waterproofing and especially the fuse issue. Too many of the USB ports that are out there don't have fuses as part of the assembly and no instructions are included that indicate that a fuse somewhere in the circuit is mandatory. Scary.

As for weatherproof, our (3BR Powersports) TAPP Lite is weatherproof up to and including heavy water washdown. However it isn't waterproof. The problem is that it's weatherproof only when it is capped.

This is OK but who runs with their USB port capped? We saw the need for weatherproof when it had a cable plugged in so we tooled up what we now call TAPP CAPP. This is a rubber boot that fits over the end of the USB cable to seal against the TAPP Lite. TAPP CAPP can be field installed on any USB Type A plug using self fusing silicon tape to make the attachment and seal. Of course we will be offering TAPP CAPP preinstalled on our cables withe the attachment and seal made with adhesive lined shrink tube (See pic).

This only gets you to weatherproof. We wanted waterproof so we tried a bit of dielectric grease around the TAPP CAPP seal surface and it works great. No need to put the grease in the connector area. We plunked it in our aquarium, pissed off the fish but no water in the connection.

We are just finishing up the Web page layout so there is nothing to see on our website. If you are interested, send an email and I'll send a copy of the webpage layout in its raw (ugly) form.
support@3brpowersports.com

So how about the device end? We've looked at a bunch of options from kayak pouches to RAM's Aquabox. The Aquabox looks like the most cost effective solution. We had pretty good results with the old Ziplok bag trick. We sealed the USB cable to the bag with self-fusing silicon tape (do you use it for everything like we do?) and left enough service loop to plug in our Nuvi. It's not rugged enough to take a hard landing. With my luck when I augered in on a water crossing the GPS would hit the only sharp rock on a muddy bottom. Anyway some options you might want to try.

-Shov


http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...99_nbZLs-S.jpghttp://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...15_VP2zP-S.png

craftycoder 11-17-2010 09:42 AM

Simple and elegant solution. Very nice.

Shov3BR 11-17-2010 09:51 AM

Weatherproof USB (more pics)
 
Here's a couple more pics of TAPP Lite and TAPP CAPP

www.3brpowersports.com

-Shov

http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...56_p7a54-S.pnghttp://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...54_ncPGQ-S.jpghttp://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...29_A2bA5-S.jpg

Shov3BR 11-20-2010 11:03 PM

Garmin Nuvi Power Cable
 
3BR Powersports now has a power cable available for the Garmin Nuvi. http://shov1.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...39_SA7g2-S.jpg

This cable has a USB Mini right angle (up) plug on the GPS end with a USB Type A plug on the other. This allows the Nuvi to be powered from any dumb USB charger such as the 3BR Powersports TAPP Lite. Cables are available in 9", 12" and 18" lengths.

TAPP CAPPed versions are available as well (see earlier post).

The "cables" page on the website is not finished yet so if you are interested send an email to

Support@3brpowersports.com

for more info and pricing.

CrustyAPO 11-23-2010 10:13 PM

Would this work for anyone?

http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=7299&cmp=ALSO

Shov3BR 11-23-2010 11:32 PM

Garmin Nuvi Power Cable
 
We've tested the cable on a couple of different Garmin GPS and they all charge and navigate at the same time. That's the same as using the Garmin power cable that has the cigarette lighter on one end.

We also tested it on an HP iPAQ that I used to use as my GPS (it has Tom-Tom GPS) it works fine. The only thing it wouldn't charge is an old Motorola RAZR V3. That takes a different cable.

The version with our TAPP CAPP weatherproof seal only plugs into our TAPP Lite because of the seal skirt around the plug. However, it will plug into other USB power ports like the ones sold by BurnsMoto and CycleNutz.

Bottom line use the standard version for Garmin GPS plugged into any USB power port. Use the TAPP CAPPed version for super weatherproof when plugged into our TAPP Lite, BurnsMoto, CycleNutz.


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