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Yardstick 05-13-2011 06:11 PM

Adventure Barbecue Averted - Now where can I get this connector?
 
Doing some maintenance I noticed a little aneurysm on my Regulator/Rectifier connector. Thinking it odd I tried to separate the connector, but it was fused! I hadn't noticed any charging issues before this (no battery whistle or dead battery after sitting). It's a little too far from running condition to check now too. I think I'll at least replace the RR, but I would like to keep from cutting up the connector on a new unit. Anyone know where I can find the mating connector on the stator side (assuming I don't have to buy a whole stator!)?

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...RR_Plug_01.jpg

Sacal 05-13-2011 06:52 PM

Try Eastern Beaver!

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/El...onnectors.html

I got a couple of tiny three way fuse blocks and some other hard to find connectors from him a few months ago. Quick delivery and good service....drop him an email if you don't see what you need, he can source most connectors for bikes.

No affiliation, just a happy customer!

jamesbrown 05-13-2011 07:03 PM

Do you think that was from being crudded up? That connector is a crap magnet, but yours looks pretty clean...

Yardstick 05-13-2011 07:26 PM

Thanks for the link Sacal. I'll try them if I find the stator is still good.

The connector looks clean because I cleaned it. :lol3 I'm not sure what the root cause is yet. Something sure caused a lot of heat generation in there. The bike has 37,000 miles on it, so it could just be a combination of old wire, crap in the connector, high loads (two 90W heated vests + other accessories & HID's firing up?) or who knows... I don't want to rule anything out completely yet.

Garp 05-14-2011 03:22 AM

Do a Google search for Aprilia Brown Connector, they ae notorius for cooking these parts. General solution seems to be to dump the connector and hard wire.

cagiva549 05-14-2011 04:54 AM

Cut it out and connect the wires permanently , cut as close to the burnt connector as close as possible because each time you want to disconnect you will loose some more wire . When one component fails order new connectors with the new component . SEYA

Yardstick 05-14-2011 08:48 AM

I was thinking last night about hard wiring it! It's good to know I'm not the only one who came up with that solution.

Now the question is: Crimp connector with integrated adhesive lined shrink tube, or Solder and use adhesive lined shrink tube?

Those Aprilia connectors are the exact same thing having the exact same problem. It looks like they stay a lot cleaner, so the failure is probably not related to the build-up of crap that the KTM connector gets. Now I'm wondering if part of the problem of Super Enduros eating RR's is that plug.

6732cash 05-14-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yardstick (Post 15909534)
I was thinking last night about hard wiring it! It's good to know I'm not the only one who came up with that solution.

Now the question is: Crimp connector with integrated adhesive lined shrink tube, or Solder and use adhesive lined shrink tube?

Those Aprilia connectors are the exact same thing having the exact same problem. It looks like they stay a lot cleaner, so the failure is probably not related to the build-up of crap that the KTM connector gets. Now I'm wondering if part of the problem of Super Enduros eating RR's is that plug.

solder and heat srink

triplenickel 05-14-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6732cash (Post 15910381)
solder and heat srink


Absolutely 100% no question solder!

KTMSER 05-14-2011 11:41 AM

Never had a problem with the connectors on the four VR's I have had to replace.. On my fifth VR..
I used dielectric grease from day one with no connector issues.

Dirty loose connection's generate heat leading to melting & burning..

1stiski 05-15-2011 08:29 AM

WOW , thats a clean connector, mine is covered with residue oil from sloppy oil changes, I figure it keeps the connector corosion free.. Im wondering what would of caused that type overload in that plug, enough to cook the plastic?

Yardstick 05-17-2011 10:25 PM

That was a connector sprayed down with brake cleaner to remove the build-up of oil and dirt. If yours is covered in crap it would be a good idea to clean and inspect it before you end up with a toasty sensation on your left toes. :evil


According to some Electrical Engineering friends, for a permanent connection, both crimping and solder are the way to go! Crimping makes a better mechanical connection and solder is a better electrical connection. I took the metal crimp parts out of some crimp type butt-splice connectors and crimped those on. Then soldered and heat shrunk the whole thing in adhesive lined shrink tube. That fooker's REALLY connected now. :lol3

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...lug_Fix_01.jpg

charlie264 05-18-2011 05:00 AM

Make sure you've got a clean earth to the rectifier, ie where it bolts on. :deal

Teeblatt 10-12-2012 08:30 PM

Not Confirmed, but I think I kow what this connector is.
 
I think I've tracked down this connector, but have not confirmed the dimensions. The plug appears to be a Sumitomo HD Series 305 P/N# 6098-0208 Male and P/N# 6098-0210 female.

If anyone is in the know on this plug, please let me know, is this right connector and is there a source for small quantities.:ear

Any help would be greatly appreciated. :freaky

Pic of the terminals.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m...age8_bodys.jpg


Pic of the connector body
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7..._terminals.jpg

Sumitomo HD Series catalog
http://www.sws.co.jp/en/product/conn...pdf/nwp_hd.pdf

Head2Wind 10-12-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie264 (Post 15940737)
Make sure you've got a clean earth to the rectifier, ie where it bolts on. :deal

FYI, I don't believe that this rectifier requires a GND (earth) and as mounted in the OEM configuration, the whole assembly that holds all this stuff is the battery box which is plastic....


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