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SteveO 07-14-2012 09:49 PM

Pro Moto Billet Kickstand UPgrade
 
The KTM kickstands leave a lot to be desired. They are held in place by a single bolt, which will fail and leave the rider without a kickstand.

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM01.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM02.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/th_PM02a.jpg

I decided to "upgrade" to a Pro Moto Billet Kickstand. While the kickstand looks nice.....

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM03.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM04.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM05.jpg

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM06.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM07.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM08.jpg

there is a flaw with the design of this kickstand....at least, in my humble opinion, there is a flaw :evil
The pin that holds the kickstand portion, holds the kickstand in place with a Snap-Ring. This Snap Ring is not very strong when leverage is placed on it during a dirt-nap.....

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/th_PM05a.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM09.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM10.jpg


To remedy this engineering oversight, I created my own backing plate to replace the Pro Moto Billet "plastic" backing cover.

I cut a 3/16" steel plate to the size of the plastic cover.
I drilled a 3/8 hold in this plate that would allow a bolt to go through this plate.
I drilled out the kickstand leg to 1/2", and put a steel sleeve in it, in which the 3/8" bolt would slide through the steel sleeve.
Now, the kickstand leg is being supported by both sides of the kickstand body and a bolt that goes all the way through......instead of "Snap Ring" holding it all together.

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM20.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM21.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM23.jpg

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM24.jpghttp://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...nd/th_PM25.jpg






This should last a lot longer now....:evil

ThePod 11-08-2012 12:33 AM

Awesome pics and write up.

I took your idea and ran with it. Did the same thing. Should hold up a lot better now.

Thanks for the pics

SteveO 11-08-2012 07:18 AM

Glad you like it. I've had ZERO issues with this modification. I was really disappointed with the design of the ProMoto Billet's snap-ring. During a crash that snap ring is all that is holding the pin in place. Not too well thought out. I suppose if you don't ever crash, on the left side, then, yeah, it'll save some weight, but come on, lets get real here.

I guess the engineers don't crash that often, and thus they don't need to have "RookieMoto" bullet-proof strength in their design......

Tooltech 11-09-2012 11:29 AM

Is it strong enough?
 
I considered this side stand however, the manufacturer said it is NOT strong enough to use when mounting / dismounting off the foot peg.

My goal is to have a side stand able to support the rider's weight. I find it difficult to get on and off the KTM 500 EXC while a full 25L dry bag is strapped on the back of the saddle.

Does anyone know of a better side stand for the aforementioned purpose?

ThumpnRed 11-09-2012 12:24 PM

Great idea, but the bolt sticking out looks like torn flesh waiting to happen. I'd cut it down and put an acorn nut on it.

mtbdemon 11-09-2012 12:40 PM

I have a KTM 620 Adventurer (Think 640) Would this kickstand work on it? I hate the one I currently have. it has fallen over its stand more then once....

WVa Dualsport 11-12-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooltech (Post 20007593)
I considered this side stand however, the manufacturer said it is NOT strong enough to use when mounting / dismounting off the foot peg.

My goal is to have a side stand able to support the rider's weight. I find it difficult to get on and off the KTM 500 EXC while a full 25L dry bag is strapped on the back of the saddle.

Does anyone know of a better side stand for the aforementioned purpose?

No, this is about as good as it gets as far as KTM kickstands are concerned.

SteveO 11-12-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumpnRed (Post 20007946)
Great idea, but the bolt sticking out looks like torn flesh waiting to happen. I'd cut it down and put an acorn nut on it.

Excellent idea, this winter I'll have to look into doing just that....

thanks

SteveO 11-12-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbdemon (Post 20008060)
I have a KTM 620 Adventurer (Think 640) Would this kickstand work on it? I hate the one I currently have. it has fallen over its stand more then once....

I don't know if this particular model would work on your KTM 620. But, I would venture that Pro Moto has one for your bike, and you can then perform this upgrade to make it bullet proof. :evil

ThePod 11-12-2012 08:59 PM

Here's my upgraded kickstand in action on my KTM 200EXC
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8061/8...68226903_c.jpg


and my friend liked the idea so much he did it for his YZ450
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8...bdfac5ddd1.jpg

SteveO 11-13-2012 07:09 AM

Maybe Pro Moto Billet take a few notes from this thread and make a better kick stand.

SteveO 11-22-2013 12:46 PM

updated
 
Fixed the pics


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