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TheBaldReverend 07-16-2012 06:11 AM

Garmin 60csx not suitable for motorbikes?
 
Hi,

I've had a bit of problem with two Garmin 60csx units - they have both let water in that appears as numerous large drops behind the screen.

Today I've spoken with Garmin and arranged for it to be replaced under warranty and the guy on the phone said he has spoken with his supervisor and that the 60csx is not suitable for use on motorbikes. He blamed vibration and said that they are waterproof 'but not designed to have water hit them at high speed'.

Has anyone else had problems with the 60csx letting in water or have I just been unlucky?

Thanks

Yossarian™ 07-16-2012 06:14 AM

I've never had water get into mine; I'd say you are particularly unlucky with this particular unit.

TheBaldReverend 07-16-2012 07:33 AM

The thing is, I've had two units and they've both had the same problem. That's some bad luck!

Yossarian™ 07-16-2012 07:49 AM

Well, the question I would pose to garmin, is "what is the definition of waterproof?"

Garp 07-16-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian™ (Post 19140498)
Well, the question I would pose to garmin, is "what is the definition of waterproof?"

They define that pretty well already. IPX7 is the spec they normally list, which is accidental immersion for up to 30 minutes. Immersion is very different to hitting water drops at 40+ MPH.

wbbnm 07-16-2012 08:00 AM

My 60 cx has survived many bad rainstorms over the past 4 years without getting any water in it. I don't think the screen has even fogged up.

It is pretty easy to take the unit apart. There about 6 small screws. The water seal seems to be a thin gasket that goes between the two case parts. If it were me I would smear some silicone grease on that gasket and put the cases back together and make sure the screws were tight.

Hair 07-16-2012 11:44 AM

A large thumper will take any 60 out. It take some time, but within a few rides the effects are there. If you want to use a 60 on a bike that shakes you need to isolate it.

TheBaldReverend 07-16-2012 11:51 AM

I had them mounted on a Touratech mount which has rubber mountings to help reduce the vibration. The thing is both units got wet behind the screen as soon as it rained.

BKMLWR 07-16-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hair (Post 19142300)
A large thumper will take any 60 out. It take some time, but within a few rides the effects are there. If you want to use a 60 on a bike that shakes you need to isolate it.


how large does the thumper need to be, I have thousands of miles on dirt roads with a 60 csx , ram mount KLR even in a rain storm so bad the noise of the rain on my helmet drowned out the sound of the bike....the gps did fine...

Countdown 07-16-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hair (Post 19142300)
A large thumper will take any 60 out. It take some time, but within a few rides the effects are there. If you want to use a 60 on a bike that shakes you need to isolate it.


What is this statement based on?

Garmin 60 is BY FAR the most popular GPS at Dual Sport rides (50 to 500 riders) and there are very few reported problems. I like the 76 better but they both are quite reliable.

BlueLghtning 07-16-2012 02:21 PM

BryceB has also had 1 or 2 60csx models fail because of rain too. He's the only one I know personally that has had issues.

I've got one myself, and it certainly gets wet. Its rated as IPX7 so I surely expect it to stay dry inside.

I wonder in any of these cases was the USB port being used for power instead of the 4 prong plug? Also were the rubber covers over these ports closed if they weren't being used?

H14 07-16-2012 04:59 PM

I've had my 60csx for a couple of years and no problems. I just got back from riding the Continental Divide where we got caught in a rain/hail storm. the next morning there was condensation on the inside of the screen and it was unable to get a satellite fix. I put it in a bag of rice and after three days it finally started working and everything seems fine now. I was fortunate I was in a group and not doing a solo trip. I'll look into putting some silicone around the gasket like was mentioned but I'll never trust it again in the rain.

TheBaldReverend 07-17-2012 02:43 AM

I just had a quick look on the Garmin website and their motorbike specific Zumo models have the same IPX7 waterproof rating so I think what I was told on the phone is a load of crap.

9Dave 07-17-2012 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBaldReverend (Post 19147632)
so I think what I was told on the phone is a load of crap.

:nod

You got some telemarketer who only thinks there Zumo models are for motorcycles.

You should have asked how the 276/376/478 models would work on a moto. :rofl

wbbnm 07-17-2012 07:50 AM

I use my 60 cx on a KLR and a KTM 450 (both thumpers). I probably put 6-8k miles a year on it and nearly all offroad. I have had my 60cx fail a couple of times where it would act like it was losing power - both external and battery.

I fixed it both times by taking it apart. For the battery there are two springy contacts that transmit power from the battery to the main board. I cleaned the contacts and bent them up a little and put dielectric grease on them.

For the external power I cleaned the connector contacts and put dielectric grease in them.

Maybe this is what Hair is talking about.


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