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Iggster 08-30-2012 01:03 PM

Any Harley <---> BMW Converts out there?
 
I am new to the adventure scene. I've been a member here for a long time but really don't have anything to post about. I have owned a HD Road King since 2004. I recently rented a F650GS in Europe and promply bought one when I returned to the states. I am a street rider - the only off-roading I do can be done on the Road King. I recently had a test ride on the 2012 1200GS and really enjoyed it. I am now considering selling the RK & 650GS for the 1200GS.

So, I know there are some converts out there...from HD to BMW or from BMW to HD. Why did you switch? How do you feel about your choice...happy? Angry? Any regrets? I'd love to hear from you! Thanks!!

mrbreeze 08-30-2012 03:26 PM

I swapped a BMW for a Suzuki once. Does that count?

I liked the Suzuki better, until the clutch went out.

Maybe someday I will own a Harley, IDK. It seems the more I look at Harleys, the better I like Victory's. And the more I look at Victory's, the better I like Japanese cruisers. And the more I look at Jap cruisers, the better I like my FJR.

Robert OK 08-30-2012 04:06 PM

If you keep the RK and add the GS you won't have to convert. I like both and would feel pain having to get rid of either.

That said, if I was forced to keep only one it would be the GS/GSA. I can drive further, in worse conditions and in more comfort. I also feel better parking it on the street with the aluminum side cases and crash bars as protection.

ka5ysy 08-30-2012 04:15 PM

Since you are mostly a street rider, might is suggest the F800GS. It is light weight, very good performance, and can be used off road much easier than the bigger 1200GS in true off-road conditions. If you really want a 1200, take a test ride on the R1200RT. It is a very versatile bike and a better choice for most road work because it has better weather protection, cruise control, and audio system if you want it. I absolutely love my 2011 RT. Best bike I have ever owned, and probably a lifetime keeper now. I could not justify the GS premium for the kind of riding I do, and much prefer the great weather protection. The RT is used as a daily driver around town much of the year.

Find a BMW dealership and ask to ride their designated demonstrator bikes. You will quickly see the difference in the RK versus the RT/GS/GTL or F/G bikes. Be careful test riding the RT: It is very, very hard on your wallet.

Come over to a couple of the BMW boards and ask your question:

http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/index.php?


There are many Harley to BMW converts over there who are very happy with the transition. Generally the BMW's have much better handling, braking, ergos, performance, lean angles, ABS brakes (now standard all models), etc.

The only thing you will find is that your Harley buddies will think you have lost your mind. Some will secretly tell you that the BMW's are much better bikes, but never in the presence of other HOG's.

One other thing: you will discover that the BMW's are not as expensive as a lot of the big HD bikes. The current CVO prices top out around $38K for a loaded Ultra. You can buy a RT and a good dirt bike for that and have change.

Good luck and let us know your decision.

wmax351 08-30-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka5ysy (Post 19483943)
Since you are mostly a street rider, might is suggest the F800GS. It is light weight, very good performance, and can be used off road much easier than the bigger 1200GS in true off-road conditions. If you really want a 1200, take a test ride on the R1200RT. It is a very versatile bike and a better choice for most road work because it has better weather protection, cruise control, and audio system if you want it. I absolutely love my 2011 RT. Best bike I have ever owned, and probably a lifetime keeper now. I could not justify the GS premium for the kind of riding I do, and much prefer the great weather protection. The RT is used as a daily driver around town much of the year.

Find a BMW dealership and ask to ride their designated demonstrator bikes. You will quickly see the difference in the RK versus the RT/GS/GTL or F/G bikes. Be careful test riding the RT: It is very, very hard on your wallet.

Come over to a couple of the BMW boards and ask your question:

http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/

http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/index.php?


There are many Harley to BMW converts over there who are very happy with the transition. Generally the BMW's have much better handling, braking, ergos, performance, lean angles, ABS brakes (now standard all models), etc.

The only thing you will find is that your Harley buddies will think you have lost your mind. Some will secretly tell you that the BMW's are much better bikes, but never in the presence of other HOG's.

One other thing: you will discover that the BMW's are not as expensive as a lot of the big HD bikes. The current CVO prices top out around $38K for a loaded Ultra. You can buy a RT and a good dirt bike for that and have change.

Good luck and let us know your decision.


Actually, pretty much any bmw is cheaper than a Harley. (Except the sportster).

Used, the price difference is even bigger. $5k gets you a pretty good range of used BMW's, doesn't even touch a used big twin, even back to the late shovelheads. Maybe a beater that needs work.

666 Bandit 08-30-2012 05:20 PM

I've had both and must say that the BMW's are more refined and definitely perform better at most things. That being said they generally don't keep my interest because they bore me, working on oil heads isn't bad but K series can be a pain. I've gone back and forth a few times but now currently ride a Dyna.

Juan Loboe 08-30-2012 09:35 PM

Keep the Road King. Get an R1200 GS. If you don't keep the Hog, you might just end up wanting another. These are very different bikes. Owning one of each puts you in a very favorable position: able to appreciate their differences.

I regretted selling my '06 Street Glide. I've got an Ultra Classic now, and a GSA (at least for the time being). Hope to keep both for a long time.

andy57 08-31-2012 05:38 PM

I rode Harleys, sportsters, super glide wideglide,streetglide and switched to BMW started with a GS then GSA and now a R1200R, like other posters said go to a dealer and test ride different models get the one that brings the biggest smile to you and also fits where and how you ride. I still like Harleys but I probably will not own another I am having too much fun. :clap

LookMaNoHands 08-31-2012 06:10 PM

We traded off an flht and an flstc on a pair of GSA's this summer and didn't look back. Comfort, acceleration, braking, handling and touring capabilities all blew away the bar and shield models. I do agree with a previous poster, I still love the look of the HD's but don't know that I'll ever own one again as an only bike. Maybe a road king one day when I've got the garage space to spare.

_cy_ 08-31-2012 06:17 PM

rode a 73 Super Glide 1200 for years.. my main transportation, rain, shine, snow, etc.

finally parked it .. mostly due to the no work rear disc brakes. first year of disc brakes for HD and they suck. at least the rear brakes sucks.. front was weak but worked every time.

now airheads .. switching from BMW R80G/S and R90S... loving it!!!
still got the old super glide, but have not ridden it in years...

royal 08-31-2012 06:23 PM

I've previously owned an LT and an RT1200. Currently ride an Electra Glide. Most of the miles I put on my bike are from longer trips. I thought my BMW RT was a great tourer and a fun bike to ride. However, after the third time stranded by the side of the road, hundreds of miles from home and many miles from the nearest dealer, I said enough was enough.

I've only had the Electra Glide since May, but I've already taken it on one big trip and numerous smaller ones. It is very different than anything I've owned previously (Mostly sport tourers), but it makes me smile every time I ride it. And you really can't beat their dealer network. Which is more important than you think if you ride long trips.

I do like BMWs and I certainly wouldn't rule out owning one again. But, for now, I'm having a heck of a lot of fun on the big V twin.

sargev55 08-31-2012 07:05 PM

well, im not the normal harley owner,

but i would looooooove an r60.

have also considered the 650X country as a possible dual sport style fun bike.

BCC 08-31-2012 07:39 PM

I sold a GSA a few weeks ago and got an electra ultra limited. I have less than 2000 miles on it so far. I certainly won't be doing fire roads and rougher on it. But you know, for the kinda road riding I'm doing mainly in NJ and Maryland, I really like it.

I've upgraded the sound system, added a gps and I've done a stage 1 performance upgrade (with epa legal slip ons). I might upgrade the headlights and spotlights to led.

I really like the bike and the whole dealer experience. Riding it, listening to tunes, makes me happy. It leans pretty good to. Though I'll use the Duc in the tight twisties.

However....I've already cleaned it more than the GSA in 5 years of ownership.:lol3

andy57 09-01-2012 05:48 AM

I see a familiar trend in this thread and I will again repeat it . Test ride until you find one the makes you smile, because isnt that why we all ride no matter which brand . To truly enjoy the time we spend on a motorcycle. :clap

skysailor 09-01-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbreeze (Post 19483592)
I swapped a BMW for a Suzuki once. Does that count?

I liked the Suzuki better, until the clutch went out.

Maybe someday I will own a Harley, IDK. It seems the more I look at Harleys, the better I like Victory's. And the more I look at Victory's, the better I like Japanese cruisers. And the more I look at Jap cruisers, the better I like my FJR.

You are a very confused individual. You should seek help for your problem. To a bike shop with you!
Lyle


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