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Tjb84 09-29-2012 11:45 AM

Tiger 955i coolant puke.
 
Coolant systems are my down fall, but anyway. I have a 2002 Tiger 955i. I started to have issues with the coolant pushing out of the reservoir as of late. Bike doesn't over heat. I replaced the rad cap as a lot of people on other forums had said to do and the bike is still doing it. I also read that the tanks are too small blah blah blah. Some how I don't believe it. Kinda scared to keep adding fluid to the system when it is pushing out the tank.

My question is, if the system is low on fluid, will this keep making it want to push out the top of the tank or am I looking at something else?

fullmonte 09-29-2012 07:02 PM

Did you change it to the aftermarket radiator cap like they recommend on the Tiger Triple forum? That was my mistake and I went back to the stock cap, which solved the problem many months later.

Tjb84 09-30-2012 06:36 AM

I bought an Autozone crap, shame on me. :shog Felt chinsy when I first put it on the filler. I'm going out and trying another rad cap today. I was playing around with the Tiger yesterday, just to make sure the system had all the air out, and while squeezing the hoses a lil I could hear stuff passing the rad cap on.

munsonbw 09-30-2012 06:49 AM

You didn't really make that big of a mistake. The generic auto caps were a known good substitute until recently. Evidently either the design or quality has changed and now are not a great choice. Stick with the Triumph one and they are known to fail over time, so might just be time for yours to be replaced.

Do you have the service manual? There is a procedure for ensuring air is out of the system. I can look it up if needed, but essentially involves ensuring the level in the filler neck is even with the bleed screw. If one is lower than the other it is a sign of an incomplete fill.

atomic frog 09-30-2012 08:18 AM

I had the same issue (changed cap etc) and after a close up exam, I found the plastic fitting to the overflow tank had a crack in it allowing coolant to leak as temps rose. Silly I know, but closely check it out.

Tjb84 09-30-2012 11:45 AM

I have the Haynes service manual and tried to follow that to a T. I bought a Stant cap today and put that on. Still doing the same thing. I'm guessing I should suck it up and buy the Triumph cap just to make sure. Right now I am limited on space and time to try to get this figured out. I'm just hoping that it isn't the head gasket. Every thing that I'm reading on this is pointing to the rad cap. I'm more than likely just gonna get this thing to my local bike shop and let him test, flush, and work the system just to be on the safe side.

Tjb84 10-01-2012 02:55 PM

Update
 
Just thought I would let everyone know... Pesky rad caps! After talking some shop about the bike with a buddy, I found that when I squeezed any of the rad hoses that fluid was pushing back to the reservoir. This shouldn't happen. I took the stant cap that I bought and examined it to the original cap and found that the tolerances were slightly off. The ears on the stant cap sat about a sixteenth of an inch higher than the original cap, not allowing the inner spring seal to seat properly. After some slight modifing by bending the ears out and down, the cap made a much better fit. Ran the bike and happily enough, she is running just like she should! :clap I'm still going to get an o.e.m. cap either as a spare or a true fix. Just thought that I would let people know this incase they run into this problem for a quick fix if you are end up in a bind.

munsonbw 10-01-2012 05:34 PM

As I have read it the auto caps are really not a great choice due to their relief pressures. If I remember correctly the auto ones have a weaker spring and therefore a lower relief pressure than what our cooling systems were designed for.

victor441 02-23-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munsonbw (Post 19723022)
As I have read it the auto caps are really not a great choice due to their relief pressures. If I remember correctly the auto ones have a weaker spring and therefore a lower relief pressure than what our cooling systems were designed for.

Not quite right, caps come in various pressure ratings (i.e. 0.9 bar, 1 bar, 1.1 bar, etc)...The Tiger needs a 1.1 bar (16 psi) cap and there are auto equivalents that are rated for that pressure (am looking for one myself, my local Triumph dealer does not stock the cap of course, even though it is a standard maintenance item :huh )

Hatley Rocket 02-23-2013 07:29 PM

Rad cap
 
The local O'reiley's that I went to to purchase a cap, looked up the stock cap for a Nissan 300Z, and found that that car also requires a 1.1 bar cap, being its a higher performing vehicle. I'm figuring it will fit, but I haven't swapped it out yet. It's winter and the tiger is in the basement, so that's all I know. The tiger cross reference list on tiger triple alluded to all Nissan radiator caps being a fit for the tiger. I just wanted to make sure I got the 1.1 bar. I don't know if'n it's the pressure difference between the 13 psi and 16 psi caps that have been causing the problems.

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mustang 02-23-2013 08:22 PM

The Stant car caps at some point in time changed and the rubber seal isn't as long as it used to be which means it wont hold pressure on the tiger radiator and will piss coolant . Not sure about the Nissan caps
If you want trouble free get the Triumph radiator cap

Stant Cap on the left Triumph OEM on the right ......what do you notice different ?
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...psfc725167.png

victor441 02-23-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustang (Post 20796174)
The Stant car caps at some point in time changed and the rubber seal isn't as long as it used to be which means it wont hold pressure on the tiger radiator and will piss coolant . Not sure about the Nissan caps
If you want trouble free get the Triumph radiator cap

Stant Cap on the left Triumph OEM on the right ......what do you notice different ?
http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/ind...ach=7021;image

Thanks, I read that about the Stant cap, also learned today that the Napa 7031406 that worked well is discontinued, none available in any local store per Napa. Tried to buy the Triumph cap however the local dealer does not stock it but should...FWIW bought a Triumph and a Suzuki and wrongly thought having local dealers would help but they are nearly useless for parts, don't even stock basic stuff like gaskets. May try the Autozone 7516 (specd for Subaru 2.5 and Nissan 300ZX. 1.1 bar) and see how that works or better yet an OEM Made in Japan Subaru cap if the dealer has one....
(BTW that photo link does not work, requires a login)

mustang 02-23-2013 11:10 PM

link fixed :evil

victor441 02-27-2013 09:47 PM

Bought a Subaru 45137AE00B cap from the dealer today (for $10) and it is working OK so far, no leaks. This was recommended on an old thread at triumphrat.net on alternative caps and all the others mentioned did not work out...the Napa item is discontinued, the Stant has been changed and no longer fits right, and the Autozone item is evidently not high quality.
FWIW did not have to remove the tank, did remove the turn signals, trim panels, and front bolt and was able to lift it enough to change the cap from underneath. Some photos are below, the OEM cap is black and the Subaru cap is silver.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...227_172513.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...227_172828.jpg


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