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GSAragazzi 09-30-2012 07:26 PM

Is it ok to filter to b 1st?
 
Here in TX it's illegal to split lanes in moving traffic, so my question is not in regards to legality but safety. Is it ok to filter thru when reaching an intersection to be in front and not trapped in between cars (who are checking Facebook, answering calls and returning txts)? I've been riding for 20 or so yrs -sport bikes- this is my first Dual sport and I've noticed a different attitude towards me without me changing any of my riding habits. I would like to keep that going .Just don't feel like getting plowed from my 6 or cut into while waiting for a light to turn in exchange. Then again, I am enjoying this new "friendly" attitude towards me and the bike I ride.
So what's your call? yes: get to the front ( piss cagers off), or no: wait in line (just don't get killed). :ear
Cheers

JimVonBaden 09-30-2012 07:34 PM

Legally no! Morally yes! However, in most places you are likely to get hurt trying.

Jim :brow

larryboy 09-30-2012 07:49 PM

It's legal here, but some of my bikes don't always fit. I stop in line and aim at an opening, keep it in gear and watch my six...I'll fill a gap before I get rear ended, you should do the same.

khager 09-30-2012 08:30 PM

I don't know what part of TX you are in, but here in DFW, most of the times nothing will happen, most are too busy texting and won't even notice, even when they are first in line and you are close enough to knock on their window (I don't suggest that though) sometimes you will get a horn honk after you have passed them, and very rarely somebody might try to block you, but when it does happen, I can almost guarantee you it will be a pickup, probably a diesel, and very likely 4wd and/or lifted. I have never had a car try to block me. Profiling works very well here. Keep on eye on Bubba, fortunately he moves pretty slow.

bomber1965 09-30-2012 08:35 PM

.....should have made it a Poll.


http://www.thevestguy.com/product_im...r_merged-2.jpg

windmill 09-30-2012 09:37 PM

Obviously you know you doing wrong or you wouldn't come here seeking validation of your justifications and excuses. It's entirely up to you if your going to break the law or not, make your own decisions and be prepared accept full responsibility for the consequences without comment.

Its ironic that many riders are so quick to pass judgment on folks in cars for doing something "wrong" yet feel free to do as they please themselves.

Ride your own ride, and assuage your own conscience.

glasswave 09-30-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GSAragazzi (Post 19716151)
Here in TX it's illegal to split lanes in moving traffic, so my question is not in regards to legality but safety. Is it ok to filter thru when reaching an intersection to be in front and not trapped in between cars...

Just don't filter past this lady:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mmz-cDD0UCg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I know it's 205 to the 205th power, but I just had to.

the_sandman_454 09-30-2012 11:10 PM

I don't filter but do keep the transmission in 1st and the bike pointed toward an escape route incase it looks like some jackass isn't going to stop. Keep an eye on the mirrors til there's a cage or two stopped behind you as a buffer.

That's not to say you shouldn't filter. You need to do whatever you feel you need to in order to stay safe, but just be aware that other people on the road and/or the local constabulary might not care for it.

_Davi_ 09-30-2012 11:15 PM

Here in the EU, splitting and filtering is legal, done and expected. Cars almost always give you a little space, and my Supertenere fits thru most gaps without an issue. One thing to make sure about filtering: shoulder check before you get in the gap, or you might get plowed by the bike filtering behind you!!

To put how great filtering is into perspective for those who are opposed to it, I have a lot of business in Budapest (but live about 3 hours away)... At rush hour on a monday, I can get from one side of Bpest to the other in a half hour on the Tenere. In my car, the same trip has taken over four hours. That was the last time I ever brought a cage into that town!

Jamie Z 09-30-2012 11:34 PM

Pretty much the only filtering I'll do is if I come to an intersection where I'm taking a right turn, I've been known to use the space between the cars ahead of me and the curb to make my turn before the light turns green. To my knowledge I've never had a negative reaction.

As to filtering to the front of the line, I wouldn't do it. It's not legal, motorists won't expect it, and moreover, they generally won't be happy about it. Do as Sandman recommends and stay in your space, keep an escape route open, bike in gear, and watch your mirrors.

I've also mounted an auxiliary high brake light on the back of my bike in hopes of reducing the chances of being rear-ended.

Jamie

AZbiker 10-01-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bomber1965 (Post 19716622)

:evil

That along with the Aerostich Lane Sharing Tool, and I think you're set. :thumb

http://www.aerostich.com/aerostich-lane-share-tool.html

LittleRedToyota 10-01-2012 08:28 AM

skipping line is lame.

fast4d 10-01-2012 10:21 AM

if you're not lane sharing then isn't it cutting in line?

BTW, I'll stop between two cars in front of me if I'm uncomfortable about leaving my six exposed and I'm not filtering to the front.

I do this on double left turn lanes if I'm not able to filter all the way up. moron cagers don't know how to keep it in their lane while turning.

eatpasta 10-01-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSAragazzi (Post 19716151)
Here in TX it's illegal to split lanes in moving traffic, so my question is not in regards to legality but safety.
Cheers

I would like to respond to this by posting a picture from my morning commute a few years ago....

http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/88...600x600Q85.jpg

I couldn't lane split through here and I got hit by a industrial sized lawn mower. THAT is why I lane split!!

Having said that, I know that Texans have been known to enforce the lawn on their own time..... and lots of them carry guns..... so it seems like quite a risk either way.

SgtDuster 10-01-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by _Davi_ (Post 19717199)
Here in the EU, splitting and filtering is legal, done and expected.

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To put how great filtering is into perspective for those who are opposed to it,


See the key word?


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