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Rainmaster 10-01-2012 06:52 PM

Any alpaca "farmers" out there?
 
Kind of out of left field I am noticing that alpacas are no longer so outrageously priced and I have the land (pasture) to consider it. Maybe now that the craze to sell pregnant mares for over $20,000 is gone the truth is that is not worth it as a real fiber/fleece harvesting and or breeding operation? For the most part the local people I am able to talk to are more than willing to sell you the animals at very reasonable prices (as low as a few hundred dollars) but are short on details as to the real economics of the operation.

I am wondering if someone here in the asylum has tried making it work and can share their experience here or thru PM's. Thanks.

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ROUNDSTOCK 10-01-2012 08:04 PM

alpacas
 
we went to pagosa springs co and went on a alpaca farm tour, they shared a wealth of knowledge and they said they had the greatest concentration of alpaca farms.might check that area out for more info...............steve

eddyturn 10-01-2012 08:25 PM

Yes. Alpacas. But they are not all that shiny. We only have 7 of them but that will only go up. I am certain about that. :1drink

straightrod 10-02-2012 07:10 AM

I thought Alpacas had some type of tax incentive involved with them, hence the boom to procure them?

Icewalker 10-02-2012 07:12 AM

Can you eat them? :evil

SilkMoneyLove 10-02-2012 08:26 AM

No real info BUT
 
I have no real numbers, which is what you are asking for, BUT I see a few Alpaca farms around here and they are all the "hobby" farm type. I do know there is a tax incentive for raising livestock. My assumption (yes, I may be an ass because of this) is that these owners want the tax break for ranching, but don't want to mess with big animals like cattle or horses. My thinking is that the couple decides that Alpacas are reasonably sized animals to have around, so they can be handled easier.

For numbers, look up what property tax rate is for your county for ranch land and see how many animals are needed to qualify. I believe ours is 5 animals and you need more than 2 acres. Chickens fall into a different category. Anyone can have them around here. Also look into how much Alpacas eat and how much food costs. Add in some veterinary expenses (rabies shots at least) and the cost to house them (pole shed, some heat in the winter) and see if there is any savings from the tax rate you pay now. As for selling the wool, I have no idea what going rate is, but I know that knitting is super trendy right now (my wife and her friends do it) so it probably is at it's peak (for financial planning purposes, don't count on that rate every year).

We have more horse farms than you can shake a stick at. Why people love horses so much is beyond me, but to each their own.

Srbenda 10-02-2012 10:30 AM

What would you do with the alpacas? Weave their fiber into clothes? Be sure to have some usefulness for them besides just a tax break.

In PA, you are required to have 10 acres as well as the livestock to qualify for tax abatement. GA may be different.

But remember, they'll need to eat more than just the grass you have growing...

Tmaximusv 10-02-2012 08:39 PM

SWMBO just chimed in when I told her about this thread. Main point is that you cannot have less than two - highly social and herd animals.

While she loves the feel of alpaca, straight alpaca yarn has no memory and stretches like a mother of 12 belly. Lovely, warm and soft and the yarn ain't bad either.

mountain eagle 10-02-2012 11:06 PM

Ping Shearboy2004 he shears them for a living :evil

CodeMonkee 10-03-2012 07:26 AM

People who raise livestock are ranchers.

People who raise plants are farmers.

a1fa 10-03-2012 07:46 AM

:dllama

Mambo Dave 10-03-2012 08:00 AM

Man, I always thought about having an Alpaca 'ranch.'

But instead I got lured to south Florida... I farm weeds and geckos now.

Sniper X 10-03-2012 08:40 AM

There is a big Alpaca ranch up near Angel Fire NM where he has hundreds of them. I think he ranches them for their wool which is supposed to be superior to sheep's wool and far more lucrative to sell. He has a lot of acreage and animals and a very nice house. So I will bet he is successful at it. Might google him as he is in the Mora NM area.

fattires 10-03-2012 12:03 PM

I have worked with Alpacas quite a bit and here are a few things I have learned.

Being native to the South American highlands they are not accustomed to dealing with the intestinal parasites that are very prevalent in many parts of the U.S. (the worst place for parasites is the Southeastern U.S.). It is very important to have a parasite control plan in place from the beginning when starting to raise Camelids, as a severe infestation can cause profound anemia and even death. ( I have seen several cases of intestinal parasites that required blood transfusions)

There are exceptions but in my experience they are not terribly hardy animals, and when the become ill it can be quite serious very quickly.

They spit when they get angry.

Here is a good website with info on parasites: http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vth/...teControl.aspx

Let me know if you have any questions about care and or health problems in Camelids.

Rainmaster 10-03-2012 04:37 PM

Thanks all for the responses. Plenty good information here so far!


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