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jrsride2002 10-04-2012 03:28 PM

SOLVED: XR650L Not starting, no cranking
 
OK, so I took a trail ride up in Yosemite. Woke up, rode for about 45 mins, I crashed. Brushed myself off, picked up the bike, fired up and continued on. I rode for about another 10 minutes when I stopped to verify if I was on the correct trail, via a map. I was, I hop on the bike, nothing. No cranking, no clicking from the relay(which I never heard before, but read about it). Bump started the bike, and everything was back to normal.

I stop again for lunch. Eat, finish, jump on the bike, NOTHING :baldy:baldy Bumb started again, bailed out to camp, no stops, just made it to camp.

Now im home, working on it....... Working on it.......................Working on it........
I pulled the seat, checked to wire to the start for breaks/cuts. Its good, a little wornout but shouldn't effect it yet. All the fuses are in good shape. Took a hammer and tapped the starter. The turn sigs work just fine in the garage. Headlights(aftermarket) no issues. My grounds look good. Bypassed safeties years ago.

WHAT COULD IT BE?!?!?!

Im at a total loss, please help, thanks, :kboom
~Junior

mcma111 10-04-2012 03:41 PM

Sounds like the right handle bar switch assembly.

jrsride2002 10-04-2012 04:18 PM

I tested with a completely new/separate starter switch setup(I have a spare)

~Junior

smokeeater495 10-04-2012 04:21 PM

Kick stand switch?

Ben99r1 10-04-2012 04:24 PM

I had this happen to me. For me it was a relay located in the head light fairing/ shroud. I don't know what its called but take off the shroud and fallow the wires from starter switch down to where it meets the harness. It will be sitting around that spot. Its black it looks like a relay/sensor. I bet you it has a crack in it or a wire pulled out of it. Ben

AZ TOM 10-04-2012 05:20 PM

Battery almost gone??

Wattner 10-04-2012 06:02 PM

Ground wire under the seat on top of the air box?

bomber1965 10-04-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrsride2002 (Post 19748875)

Bypassed safeties years ago.

~Junior



recheck them, they may have corroded or come loose.:*sip*




:lurk

jrsride2002 10-04-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben99r1 (Post 19749319)
I had this happen to me. For me it was a relay located in the head light fairing/ shroud. I don't know what its called but take off the shroud and fallow the wires from starter switch down to where it meets the harness. It will be sitting around that spot. Its black it looks like a relay/sensor. I bet you it has a crack in it or a wire pulled out of it. Ben

Do you mean the turn signal relay? Or the diode?? The turn sig(stock) was the larger black one with two spade connectors. The diode is buried in a black boot with the turn signal connectors and cluster connectors and is noticeably smaller then the turn sig relay. Diode has never been fiddled around with.



Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ TOM (Post 19749762)
Battery almost gone??

Fresh and new. Not even half a season on it. Bought it in May-ish....


Quote:

Originally Posted by Wattner (Post 19750065)
Ground wire under the seat on top of the air box?

Though I doubt it, I havent confirmed just cause EVERYTHING else works just perfectly. So the sigs are grounded and the batt is grounded. Plus whatever else that ground right their.



Quote:

Originally Posted by bomber1965 (Post 19750249)
recheck them, they may have corroded or come loose.:*sip*




:lurk

..............:huh....................:hmmmmm..... ..... Yer on............


Called my Uncle, said he'd be here tomorrow with his fluke. He's an electrician by trade, so I will also love to hear what he has to say.....

Thanks dudes for reading and helping!!!!!!:thumb
~Junior

jrsride2002 10-05-2012 05:17 AM

Ok! I solved it!!!
 
Im an ass...... Really... Im just going to hang my head in shame... Such an idiot.....


OK so I honestly couldn't sleep over this issue. So here I was at 3:30am, chasing my wiring harness for loose connections, pinched wires, and checking my safeties..... After in depth review of the switch. They're 3 wires coming from it:
1.) To the relay in the battery box
2.) To the headlight High/Low beam switch
3.) To the headlight fuse
Turns out it was the headlight fuse.......I would have NEVER thought the starter button was based on the headlight fuse, seriously.... Here I knew I didn't know everything about this bike. But that to me is not 2+2=4.... Something else in my opinion...

Thanks for all the input guys!!!!:freaky
~Junior


P.S. How do I change the posting title to Solved??? I thought by editing the first post it would have done it, but no. I wrong again.....:huh

Ben99r1 10-05-2012 01:10 PM

HUH.. I would of not figured that either. Congrats on figuring it out.

XR650L_Dave 10-05-2012 02:27 PM

The schematic tells all


http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/images/safeties.gif

bomber1965 10-05-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrsride2002 (Post 19748875)

Working on it.......................Working on it........

All the fuses are in good shape....... Headlights(aftermarket) no issues.



:ddog






Put Down the Wrenches and Step Away from the Keyboard!!


:lol3

High Country Herb 10-05-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrsride2002 (Post 19752384)
...I honestly couldn't sleep over this issue...So here I was at 3:30am, chasing my wiring harness for loose connections...

True dedicated adventurer...:thumb

jrsride2002 10-05-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomber1965 (Post 19756574)
:ddog






Put Down the Wrenches and Step Away from the Keyboard!!


:lol3

I have the Baja Designs dual Fuego lights:evil, which have their own fuse direct to the batt... Should've pointed that out.... oops:norton

~Junior


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