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turnitonagain 10-28-2012 05:29 PM

maintenance on a 990 adv
 
I'm considering a KTM 990 ADV for a cross canada run 2-up. I hear all of these things about KTM's being very fussy, and more difficult to maintain, I just want to hear from a KTM rider's perspective what the REALITY is, and their personal overall opinion of the machine. I am green to the adv motorcycle segment so, any insight will be helpful.

crofrog 10-28-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnitonagain (Post 19920071)
I'm considering a KTM 990 ADV for a cross canada run 2-up. I hear all of these things about KTM's being very fussy, and more difficult to maintain, I just want to hear from a KTM rider's perspective what the REALITY is, and their personal overall opinion of the machine. I am green to the adv motorcycle segment so, any insight will be helpful.

They aren't the easiest thing to work on but they aren't hard either. I think it'll depend on how comfortable you are at working on your own bike.

grinns 10-28-2012 06:15 PM

Worth the trouble, but probably not the best bike two up.

bikepsych 10-28-2012 06:38 PM

Compared to most Japanese bikes the maintenance takes significantly more time. But what you get in terms of a high performance bike is well worth it. Not sure I'd call it "fussy." I beat the heck out of my bike and it rewards with a ton of power and plenty of grins! :D

Desperate 10-28-2012 06:40 PM

Yes maintenance is fiidly, but with the oil change every 7,500 km and valves, coolant every 15,000 km there is a lot of riding between maintenance intervals so whether it is 1 hr or 4 hrs to do the oil change does it really matter compared to the enjoyment.

The most important is to do the first time in the comfort of your own garage to get your head around it and become familiar with the bike and list the tools that you should take with you if you think that you will need to do again in the field.

People have added a valve to the oil tank but I think it makes it more vulnerable.

xcflyn 10-28-2012 07:25 PM

You will get good at changing tires :D

Katoom119 10-28-2012 08:08 PM

Many people have taken long trips 2 up on them; I'm heading to Alaska next year with my wife. These were built by KTM, and KTM builds race ready bikes, so you have to TAKE CARE of it. You can't ride it ragged and park it like a Japanese bike.

That being said it is incredibly easy to do general maintenance on and with the OC here we can talk you through just about all of it.

crashmaster 10-28-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Katoom119 (Post 19921168)
You can't ride it ragged and park it like a Japanese bike.


If you dont take care of a DR, and especially a KLR, they will leave you walking home as well. You need to look after any bike. The routine work on the KTM Adventure is just more of a PITA because of all the shit you have to take off to get to it. The SE is quite a bit easier because of that IMO.

As far a toughness, the 990 is one tough bike. I've thrashed mine pretty hard and even zip tied it together and rode it 500 miles home after I got hit by a truck in Baja. Its not fragile, thats for sure.

two trackin fool 10-29-2012 01:58 AM

Did the paper work
 
Ok guys I went and did all the paper work at the stealership on Saturday to buy a 2010 :evil .

I should here from the finance dept today if all is well I plan to pick up this Saturday :clap .

I keep looking for negetive input about his bike ! So far unable :huh ? Don't get me wrong like I say the plan is set , But is this bike really this good ??

Is there any thing I need to know about as far as Expence to be ready for or that I need to leave the dealer ship with ?

Should I buy the warrenty ??

I plan for this bike to not be sold a way .
I am getting off a KLR . And I am a mechanic doing maintance is not a problem .

Just Curious Thanks :freaky

Bob_Wilson 10-29-2012 02:46 AM

Let me give you some positives. :D

My wife and I have just completed UK - Ushuaia (Argentina) - Deadhorse (Alaska) - New York - UK. 53,000 miles and nine months.

We were two up with camping gear. Seven sets of tyres, three sets of brake pads, one set of fork seals and serviced every 4,500 miles. The bike performed amazingly and the only thing that broke was my GPS mount, once on the Carretera Austral (Chile) and the other time on the Dalton Highway (Alaska)

Much of South America was gravel and sometimes worse. I had the seat re-worked before we left the UK and we sometimes did 450 mile days no problem.

I Also have a BMW 1200 GSA and bought the KTM because I thought it was more suited to this journey (two up riding). I was right.

turnitonagain 10-29-2012 08:55 AM

I'm not a very good mechanic, or am comfortable doing maintenance on my bike. Unfortunately, I don't have that skill, I enjoy to ride the machine! My journey will take me through some remote stretches of Canada, and I want to make sure that the machine I chose is not only capable, but reliable to get me, my passenger, and gear across and back without being stuck in the middle of nowhere. Many people are giving me mixed messages about the 990 ADV, saying "It's not a good bike for the journey 2-UP Especially!" "Parts, are difficult to find" "Maintenance, is tough to perform on these especailly on the road, AND not just anybody can work on KTM's" "You need to baby it, because its such a HI-PO machine, you can't ride it the way you ride any other bike"

With all of these things being said, I'm not sure what to make of the KTM? I love and respect what it can do, but are all of these said things true? Is it the right machine for my XC journey 2-up. Is it 100% dirt biased? That's why I pose these questions to the KTM OWNERS and RIDERS to help me figure out if this machine is the weapon of choice for my battle.

Thanks

rotten 10-29-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnitonagain (Post 19923769)
I'm not a very good mechanic, or am comfortable doing maintenance on my bike. Unfortunately, I don't have that skill, I enjoy to ride the machine! My journey will take me through some remote stretches of Canada, and I want to make sure that the machine I chose is not only capable, but reliable to get me, my passenger, and gear across and back without being stuck in the middle of nowhere. Many people are giving me mixed messages about the 990 ADV, saying "It's not a good bike for the journey 2-UP Especially!" "Parts, are difficult to find" "Maintenance, is tough to perform on these especailly on the road, AND not just anybody can work on KTM's" "You need to baby it, because its such a HI-PO machine, you can't ride it the way you ride any other bike"

With all of these things being said, I'm not sure what to make of the KTM? I love and respect what it can do, but are all of these said things true? Is it the right machine for my XC journey 2-up. Is it 100% dirt biased? That's why I pose these questions to the KTM OWNERS and RIDERS to help me figure out if this machine is the weapon of choice for my battle.

Thanks

IMHO if you need to ask you have already answered the question. There are may bikes to chose from and you are unlikely to get responses in this forum that will chase you away from the KTM. When it comes down to it and you really want the 990 (Who doesn't its a great bike) buy it and learn along the way or plan your trip with planned stops at KTM dealers along the way. It is also true that you can't ride it like other bikes but so much harder, the normal putt through the woods or highway would drive most KTM owners insane with the burning need to destroy the rear tire. Plenty of folks have ridden these bikes RTW passing some of the most hostile environments in the world. Just make sure you buy the bike that makes you comfortable and speaks to you when you get on the saddle. Yamaha Super Tenere for instance has scheduled maintenance for valve adjustments in the 26K mile range and shaft drive so you don't have to worry about the chain (everything has a minus shafts too). all in all get what calls to you everything else will be the journey.

Good Luck!

crashmaster 10-29-2012 09:27 AM

I've ridden my 2007 990 2 up quite a bit. It works. Is it comfortable 2 up for long days? Not really IMO. But my feeling is that 2 up on a bike kinda sucks no matter what.

Before I took off on a 50,000 mile 2 year journey, I had "experts" telling me that it was not the right bike, it would break down all the time and I would be sorry that I ever bought it.

I had already ridden the bike about 10,000 miles, mostly off pavement and off road. I loved the bike so I took it anyway and my real life experience couldnt have been further from the advice of the "expert" peanut gallery, mostly guys that adventure ride to Starbucks on a GS.

I was prepared for the known issues: Water pump, fuel filters, clutch slave, some various electrical parts that need to be cleaned occasionally, etc. I was familiar with the bike, its issues and prepared to do all my own work.

Every bike has issues. The biggest PITA on the KTM is doing the water pump change when you dont have a nice work space. But, using a CJ Designs water pump shaft will considerably lengthen the change interval. I always carried a WP kit and fuel filter kit in the glove box. I tended to go through rear brakes pretty fast in the mountians so I carried a spare set when I could find them. There are brakes for a Honda, cant remember what model, but with a little grinding they would fit the rear of the 990. Chains of course need to be changed and the 525 is not always easy to find depending on what part of the world you are in. But, chain life is pretty long, so you can prepare and plan when you will need one, and change it before it gets too far gone. Plan, prepare, adapt, improvise. Always best done in that order.

I looked over the bike and the end of each day. Touched every fastener I could get to, daily. That only takes a bit of time and gives you the opportunity to really look over the bike and catch things that might be going wrong. I changed oil and air filters as often as I could. I changed wheel bearing and steering stem bearings before they became an issue, bled brakes, etc, etc. Never had any issue that I was not expecting, or an issue not caused myself by unnecessarily thrashing the shit out of the bike or crashing into stuff.

IMO its a very solid bike for extended world travel. I was very happy with the bike.

Whatever you throw at it, or crash into, this bike can handle it.

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turnitonagain 10-29-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rotten (Post 19923844)
IMHO if you need to ask you have already answered the question. There are may bikes to chose from and you are unlikely to get responses in this forum that will chase you away from the KTM. When it comes down to it and you really want the 990 (Who doesn't its a great bike) buy it and learn along the way or plan your trip with planned stops at KTM dealers along the way. It is also true that you can't ride it like other bikes but so much harder, the normal putt through the woods or highway would drive most KTM owners insane with the burning need to destroy the rear tire. Plenty of folks have ridden these bikes RTW passing some of the most hostile environments in the world. Just make sure you buy the bike that makes you comfortable and speaks to you when you get on the saddle. Yamaha Super Tenere for instance has scheduled maintenance for valve adjustments in the 26K mile range and shaft drive so you don't have to worry about the chain (everything has a minus shafts too). all in all get what calls to you everything else will be the journey.

Good Luck!

Well, I'm coming from a Harley Davidson and I'm assuming the ride and the manner of riding is totally different. I'm not looking to be doing 180KM/hr on the trip, but most of the route is blacktop, with the exception of the Dempster, and a few fire roads in the route. I'm just looking to ride the motorcycle and get across the country in the most suitable machine for the job (I know there are TONS of other capable machines) it's just that the KTM 990 has such an amazing pedigree that I wanted to explore more and more about it.

crofrog 10-29-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by two trackin fool (Post 19922004)
Ok guys I went and did all the paper work at the stealership on Saturday to buy a 2010 :evil .

I should here from the finance dept today if all is well I plan to pick up this Saturday :clap .

I keep looking for negetive input about his bike ! So far unable :huh ? Don't get me wrong like I say the plan is set , But is this bike really this good ??

Better than you can even imagine.

Quote:

I am getting off a KLR . And I am a mechanic doing maintance is not a problem .
HA! Your mind will be blown after getting off a bike that's as much of a turd as a KLR.


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