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Domromer 11-21-2012 05:00 AM

Tell me about the honda Helix
 
I've been kicking around the idea of getting a smaller scooter compared to my current Silver Wing. It's main uses would be running around town and down non highways tours. I've looked at various mid sized bikes like the vespa 300, BV350, and the people 300. All nice bikes but none of them really call to me like the helixdoes . I came of age during the dominance of the honda scooter in America so in my mind that's how a scooter should look. So how will the helix compare to my silver wing? Are parts still easy to get? Do they need a lot of maintenance? What are the valve adjustment frequencies? Anything else I should know about them?

JerryH 11-21-2012 06:47 AM

Great scooter, proven reliable, comfortable, highway capable, and parts are available, because Honda brought it back for a short time recently. Sort of expensive, and worst of all, depending on where you are I guess, hard to find in decent condition. Seems most owners hang onto them. I would love to have one, but it seems everytime a good one shows up on Craugslist, there is some reason I can't buy it right then. I love the look. Does not look like a Vespa, but does not look like a modern maxi scooter either.

Warney 11-21-2012 07:16 AM

Owned an Elite 125, 150, 250, and still have a Honda Big Ruckus. Brother-in-law has the Helix and it is a nice Scooter in-town or on the Highway. Pretty comfy seating, no bad manners, long wheelbase and low profile makes riding in the wind a breeze. All of the 250cc Honda Scooters are simple, reliable, and easy to maintain. The engine architecture and conservative tuning allow them to run wide open for hours on end and not self-destruct. The Helix was sold for a lot of years and parts supply should be solid for a long time to come.

tortoise2 11-21-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Domromer (Post 20089846)
Tell me about the honda Helix

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Originally Posted by Domromer (Post 20089846)
It's main uses would be running around town and down non highways tours.

What exactly do you consider "down non highways tours" type of use?

Domromer 11-21-2012 09:19 AM

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What exactly do you consider "down non highways tours" type of use?

I type on my phone its not always pretty. I just meant tours that stick to back roads and avoid the slab.

ElusivePedro 11-21-2012 10:32 AM

I have a 2004 Honda Helix. Great little scoot. Have owned 2 Burgman 650s - both those long gone, but the little Honda? Still have it. It's the bright yellow one and I affectionately call her "Buttercup" ;-)

I've always been a bit disappointed with the top speed. Mine won't crack 70. Mine stops going any faster once I hit about 68, though I've read where others will do better... ( I do weigh 210 - maybe thats the problem.. damn I need to get to the gym! :-) But hey, the cool thing is that I could ride her WFO till she runs out of gas and not worry one bit. Oh and another thing - the speedometer is accurate - unlike many of today's more moden bikes that are usually 5-10% optimistic.

I am 6' tall and even though the seating position is luxurious (to me anyway) I could use just a tick more leg room - If I were 71" I bet it would feel like I was sitting in the lap of luxury.

I agree with the previous commentor about it not looking like a Vespa, and not looking like a modern maxi-scoot either. I sorta feel like a member of the group Devo when I ride mine -- maybe I should see if I can find a helmet that is shaped like an upside down flower pot? (LOL) ...In my opinion, that adds to the coolness factor. I am always bumping into ppl that say something to the effect of "I haven't seen one of those in years" or some such thing...

The mechanicals are very basic. The wierd choke mechanism has never seemed to work, but hey, I live in Florida, so it may be different elsewhere. Needless to say, she's a bit cold natured, either way, after a couple of minutes on the center stand warming up she runs like a swiss watch.

So anyway - that's my basic opine. Perfect for errands, short hops, cheap thrills, and an occasional hundred mile road trip.

ElusivePedro 11-21-2012 11:05 AM

Oh, and btw, what is this thing you mention about "valve adjustments" :1drink Just kidding - I'll just say that this thing is so under-stressed and overbuilt that I wouldn't even think about that with my bike. Now maybe if you were to use one for daily commuting at top speed, you may want to check them at the prescribed intervals, but in my case, I just treat mine as if it were a rock. Always there - always ready to go. Trouble free. All I ever do is just change the oil every now and then and check the tire pressures. But if I were to check the valve lash, I'd bet that it would be a pretty damn simple thing to do. :deal

Oh - and a final note - the trunk WILL hold an 18-pack of beer. That sealed the deal for me! :lol3

ElusivePedro 11-21-2012 11:14 AM

Here's a really cool story about a Man Named Ed Otto, and his Honda Helix Iron Butt rally ride a few decades ago. :clap

Domromer 11-21-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ElusivePedro (Post 20092238)
Oh, and btw, what is this thing you mention about "valve adjustments" :1drink Just kidding - I'll just say that this thing is so under-stressed and overbuilt that I wouldn't even think about that with my bike. Now maybe if you were to use one for daily commuting at top speed, you may want to check them at the prescribed intervals, but in my case, I just treat mine as if it were a rock. Always there - always ready to go. Trouble free. All I ever do is just change the oil every now and then and check the tire pressures. But if I were to check the valve lash, I'd bet that it would be a pretty damn simple thing to do. :deal

Oh - and a final note - the trunk WILL hold an 18-pack of beer. That sealed the deal for me! :lol3

That's a dangerous game not checking that the valves are within spec.

ElusivePedro 11-21-2012 11:33 AM

Yeah but I only have about a thousand miles on mine. I use it basically as a weekend get about. Basically, I was just kidding. Anyway, a "thank you" for the intensive write-up (for me with my limited typing skills) would be cool too. Just thought you'd like to hear something from a person that owns one.

Happy trails!

Domromer 11-21-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ElusivePedro (Post 20092457)
Yeah but I only have about a thousand miles on mine. I use it basically as a weekend get about. Basically, I was just kidding. Anyway, a "thank you" for the intensive write-up (for me with my limited typing skills) would be cool too. Just thought you'd like to hear something from a person that owns one.

Happy trails!

Thank you for that intensive write up.

gasandasphalt 11-21-2012 12:27 PM

Helix
 
Buy one, I bought a 2006 a year ago with 35 miles, LOVE IT, now has almost 4000 mi, about 75 mpg. Never a problem... Smooth as silk at any speed, starts and runs strong..... everyone needs at least one..

delftvanp 11-21-2012 01:25 PM

Helix
 
I don't want to hijack the post, however I am selling my Honda Helix, just have to relist it.
Paul
Doylestown PA

Krusty ... 11-21-2012 02:58 PM

My GF has a Helix, she has no trouble holding 80mph for extended time. That trunk gives it quite a bit of profile so it's sensitive to strong crosswinds. Adding a top case makes this worse, obviously. I've ridden it some myself, but with my 32 inch inseam, it's not a good fit for me. I have to sit on the pillion section to keep my knees from hitting the grips. This puts ALL the weight on the back end, so the front end gets a little twitchy, especially at higher speeds :vardy.

Woodsrat 11-21-2012 04:46 PM

The proceedure for adjusting the valves on the Helix is so simple anyone can do it. It takes way longer to remove the body panels to access the TDC mark than it does to adjust the valves with their vernier adjusters. Once it's on TDC you simply loosen a 10mm headed bolt, rock the gauge to one side (zero clearance) and then move it back two marks and tighten the bolt. Done!!

I thought riding mine was like sitting in a big hand. Definitely a flexi-flier, though--between the no-dampening suspension and the "hinge" effect formed by a long, flexible frame it's not something you throw into corners. Ridden with some common sense they're a hoot and I miss it. They were perfect in 55 MPH America and are still good if you stay off the autobahn.

All that plastic was an invitation to disaster, though but it sure kept me dry and warm. I always thought the Big Ruckus with flexible dirt bike-style plastic wind protecters for your legs would've been awesome. A shame they didn't stay in production long enough for the aftermarket to offer them.


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