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El Pescador 12-23-2012 07:17 PM

If you were a Noob and had $15k max to spend...
 
I think this is the right place for this thread. I'll start with background. I haven't been on a motorcycle since I was 15 and rode a Yamaha DT50 to school every day. I have wanted a motorcycle for a long time but work, family, and finances made a bike a low priority.

About 6 months ago, I bought a Dyna Low Rider. I wanted a Harley for a couple of reasons.
1) Their resale is good and I knew if I didn't like motorcycling, I could turn it around without losing much money.
2) They're simple and I could learn the basics of motorcycle maintenance and mechanics.
3) I didn't know adventure bikes existed.

I really like riding and not necessarily riding ONLY a Harley as most who have them are. I'm not opposed to a Harley, I just don't identify with the brand and believe I would enjoy riding ANY motorcycle. I would like to get another 6 months of experience on the Low Rider and then sell it or add to the garage and therein lies the question.

If you had $15k to spend on any 2 or 3 bikes what would you buy?
Meaning, would you try to cover the riding styles with two bikes like a KTM EXC450 and a BMW GS800 (these bikes are representative of their class and not necessarily the specific bikes you would buy) or would you buy three bikes like a 250 trail bike, a 650 dual sport, and a bigger bike like a big GS or KTM 990?

I know it's dependent on the individual, so here are my specifics...

1) I'll rarely be 2up.
2) I live in Houston. Lots of highways and lots of traffic. The SH National Forest is 30 minutes north with about 80 miles of trails. Additionally, their are places that I can ride dirt, but that doesn't really appeal to me as I prefer to explore, rather than just ride the same track.
3) I obviously will have to buy used since the budget doesn't afford new.
4) I travel regionally for work, and I would like to do more of it on a motorcycle, rather than fly in.

If I haven't made something clear, or made some assumptions please ask further questions. I look forward to your experience.

trc.rhubarb 12-23-2012 07:23 PM

One bike isn't enough for me.
Two bikes isn't enough for me now :)
I only travel on 2 wheels if I'm not with the family.
Bikes are an addicton for many of us.

My two do most everything very well but I'm still short a project and a beauty queen for occasional use.

Your Dyna can take you across the country in comfort if that's your thing. It will handle reasonaby well within the confines of speed limits. Unpaved roads are no issue either within reason. I wouldn't spend any money until I had a few thousand more miles under my belt and knew what I wanted... or you can do it like the rest of us and keep changing bikes until you find what you were looking for, fast forward 5 years or so and give the same advice to the next new guy :rofl

damurph 12-23-2012 07:40 PM

I have different bikes for different purposes. All were purchased used and most were good deals.
Scooter does everything around town for very few gas dollars.
GSA does two up and longer adventure trips.
K bikes do my day/weekender rides.
KLR is only used during the winter as my beater. I purchased it as my first (and cheap) foray into dual sport and figured out i am not a dirt bike rider but a dirt road rider.
The point of this is that one bike will not do it all. What you need to figure out for yourself (and be honest with yourself) is what/where you want to ride.
Small kids and full time job means long distance trips are likely only going to happen every few years,
Empty nest means more freedom.

DAKEZ 12-23-2012 07:47 PM

If I were to start over I would go with a Tiger 800XC and a WR250.

But I am not, so I will stick with the DR650, Triumph Sprint, XR1200X and FrankenWing. :D

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-8w7c...8w7crM3-Th.jpg http://dakez.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...H%20004-Th.jpghttp://dakez.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...1111113-Th.jpghttp://dakez.smugmug.com/Motorcycles...s%20004-Th.jpg

Besides, I have access to an 800XC any time I want one so...

blk-betty 12-23-2012 08:14 PM

If you see yourself doing more distance road riding yet also want to explore off-pavement...consider trading the LowRider for any of the touring HDs and adding something like a used DR650.

I feel like I now have the perfect stable for me, a Road Glide for distance and comfort, an XR1200 for ripping around town and riding the twisties (although gettign there is a 4 hour ride one way), and a DR650 for exploring off-pavement.

A more dirt oriented bike like a KTM sure would be fun but overkill for the type of riding I do, and I'm wise enough (old enough) to understand my needs are much more relevant than my wants.

If your looking for one bike to "do it all" the Tiger 800XC as Dakez recommends is a great choice.

Good luck and always fun "searching" for another bike.

El Pescador 12-23-2012 09:07 PM

Thanks for the replies.



Quote:

Originally Posted by blk-betty (Post 20317442)

If your looking for one bike to "do it all" the Tiger 800XC as Dakez recommends is a great choice.

Is that bike comfortable over long distances?

No False Enthusiasm 12-23-2012 09:15 PM

Almost two years ago, I went with a well broken in DL 650 with a few farkels for $4,000 and an almost brand new Bonny SE for $6,000.

Upgraded suspensions on each, bought riding gear and bags, and am still well within $15,000.

Trying to resist a WR250.... can't justify a third...

NFE

El Pescador 12-23-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No False Enthusiasm (Post 20317794)
Almost two years ago, I went with a well broken in DL 650 with a few farkels for $4,000 and an almost brand new Bonny SE for $6,000.

Upgraded suspensions on each, bought riding gear and bags, and am still well within $15,000.

Trying to resist a WR250.... can't justify a third...

NFE

What kind of riding do you do on each?

DAKEZ 12-23-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Pescador (Post 20317763)

Is that bike comfortable over long distances?

Yes. (I base this on a few 600+/- days on one) I prefer the windshield removed.

You may need to address the windshield and seat a little but other than that it is likely the best all purpose bike ever. (an 800GS being a very close second) IMO

Can't really go wrong either way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by No False Enthusiasm (Post 20317794)
Almost two years ago, I went with a well broken in DL 650 with a few farkels for $4,000 and an almost brand new Bonny SE for $6,000.

NFE


Two more good choices. :nod The DL has a great engine...But I find it a bit lackluster overall. The Bonneville just brings out the grin from deep within.:ricky

Kommando 12-23-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Pescador (Post 20317763)
Thanks for the replies.
Is that bike comfortable over long distances?

You didn't state height/weight/inseam.

The DR650SE is pretty versatile, affordable, reliable, and simple thumper. It's also a lot of fun, and has been produced since 1996. As a result new/used/aftermarket parts support is pretty good. It does best with customizing for YOU. Intake/carb/exhaust improvements really wake up the engine. The suspension, tires, and ergos may likely need work too.

You may want a multi for long highway blasts. The Tiger 800XC is your bike if it fits you well and you aren't shy about possible electronic/computer quirks that take a dealer shop a while to diagnose and fix.

A multi with more of a rep for low-priced reliability is the DL650. You can also get this with ABS, and you may want to wire in a switch for this. Many of these DLs go over 50K miles with no major issues.

Pantah 12-23-2012 10:20 PM

I discovered this site Fall 2004. I was fascinated with the exploration oriented RR's. I was riding a Ducati at the time. Then I discovered an article about the 2004 Alcan5000. I emailed the club that put on the event and got the rules. I also entered the 2006 event. In early 2005 I bought a KTM 950 leftover for the job. Then I road it all over the west to explore while waiting for the 2006 Alcan45000. I just sold that bike a few months ago with well over 50k miles on it from my trips.

I replaced it with a 2012 KTM 690R and set it up for travel and exploration. My reason was I needed to be able to pick the bike up out of the mud when I was solo in some remote area. The 690 is 150lbs lighter. If you are looking for better touring, probably the new KTM 990 or the Tri 800 is best for you. You definitely want the 21 inch front wheel and the ability to mount DOT knobbies.

PS: I entered the 2014 Alcan5000 too. Not yet sure if I'll ride my 690 or a Yamaha 250. No more big bikes for me. I found my sweet spot.

Wraith Rider 12-24-2012 12:48 AM

I took 17k Euro to buy one bike. New. The one that fits best to me. (In your case that would have been a Honda Crosstourer/Crossrunner/NC700X.)

slartidbartfast 12-24-2012 04:07 AM

A good question
 
From the bikes you are suggesting, it seems that the dual-sport/multi-purpose/standard type bikes are your preference.

I'd suggest two bikes: A small street-legal dirt bike such as WR250 or one of the KTMs such as the EXC you mentioned, and something like a big GS, possibly the 800 you already mentioned (although I'd strongly consider the Triumph 800XC mentioned by Dakez) or even a Multistrada.

If it were me, I'd be looking for a late model DR350 in good condition ($2500 max) which would leave plenty of cash for a clean 2010 or 2011 Multistrada and luggage, etc.

mikesova 12-24-2012 06:15 AM

I'd buy the two bikes I have, farkle them, and pocket the 7500 bucks left over, for a rainy day. :)

El Pescador 12-24-2012 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesova (Post 20318856)
I'd buy the two bikes I have, farkle them, and pocket the 7500 bucks left over, for a rainy day. :)

This brings up a really good point. I don't necessarily*WANT to spend all $15k. I am new to motorcycling and I certainly wouldn't maximize the potential of a race-bred bike like a ducati. Why pay for it?


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