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qman8 01-01-2013 08:24 AM

Help with oill filter removal!!!
 
:huh
A quick forum search revealed no related items.....
I just cant seem to get the damn oil filter off my 09 1200GS. I've tried the old screwdriver poked thru it method ...just ripped it up and it did not budge. I broke TWO filter wrenches...One while trying to torque it off with a 1/2 inch ratchet! I was using all the muscle I had at that time when it snapped! I had let the bike cool for several days after the oil drain before I was able to get back at trying to remove the filter. Would a cold (winter) engine and filter prevent me from turning this damn thing??? Cant run the engine to heat things up now with a broken filter !
The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!????

One person suggested buying the cup type wrench and drilling several holes thru it and thru the bottom of the filter, then run sheet metal screws thru both, and then try wrenching it!
That might be my next try!

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks

mouthfulloflake 01-01-2013 08:28 AM

Ive used the 3 screws method before, straight up into the filter, and outside of the center 1" or so to avoid the mounting boss

just be careful down there.

I recall reading where someguy used the screwdriver through the filter method and cracked the engine case down there.

LaurelPerryOnLand 01-01-2013 08:28 AM

I dare not ask...but I will...
 
With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.

larryboy 01-01-2013 08:40 AM

I've had one fight me on my 1150, before I tore up the filter too much I welded a nut on the filter and got that thing out of there, put it on myself and can't explain why it wouldn't come off. :scratch

qman8 01-01-2013 08:59 AM

Unless BMW has left-hand threads on the filter....I wouldnt put such a thing past those Teutonic geniuses. These are the same guys who designed the 3 different fasteners to secure the bash plate!
Looking at the new filter's threads, NO, I was turning (or trying to turn) in the proper direction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurelPerryOnLand (Post 20370542)
With all that effort....are you sure:

You're TURNING in the correct direction?

Left to loosey...Right to tightee?

Otherwise...never mind.


kimokk 01-01-2013 09:21 AM

Did you try a strap wrench? It might be tight but worth a try. Maybe heat up the filter with mini butane torch.

Happy BMW 01-01-2013 09:44 AM

can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

GS Addict 01-01-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy BMW (Post 20371073)
can you post a picture that would help a little. when yu put new filters on are you lubeing the filter first?

Read his post:
"The dealer put the last filter on...maybe he used a friggin impact driver!!!???"

Britome 01-01-2013 10:37 AM

Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.

larryboy 01-01-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britome (Post 20371426)
Go to autozone and the the wrench adapter that has 3 fingers that hand down and gets progressively tighter on any oil filter as you tighten/loosen.


Won't fit.

Weld nut on end of filter, take off, done. :deal

GS Addict 01-01-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryboy (Post 20371444)
Won't fit.

Weld nut on end of filter, take off, done. :deal

Gas weld or electric?
If electric I'd be real careful where the ground is placed. Lots of possible issues with the bikes electronics.

Twempie 01-01-2013 10:45 AM

Tri-Flow or WD40?
 
Would an overnight soak in a releasing agent help?

JimVonBaden 01-01-2013 10:55 AM

At this point your rubber seal is "welded" for lack of a better term, to your motor case.

By your description I assume the filter is now somewhat shredded? If so, remove what is left of the can and expose the baseplate. Use a couple screws through a steel filter tool into the baseplate. Make sure they are short and thick. Then you can twist it off. I suggest turning it tighter slightly if possibe first. Heat might help as well.

Jim :brow

oalvarez 01-01-2013 11:04 AM

a pair of these and some heat as Jim suggests

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

larryboy 01-01-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GS Addict (Post 20371471)
If electric I'd be real careful where the ground is placed. Lots of possible issues with the bikes electronics.


MIG, clamp ground to nut, weld on, no issue.


Don't think those pliers will fit on the 1200, better than the 1150, don't think they'll grab.


Chisel and hammer on the filter base plate.


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