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Flood 01-05-2013 01:42 AM

2013 Dakar Cliff Notes thread
Ladies, Gentlemen,

this is ADVrider's traditional Dakar Cliff Notes thread. Its purpose is to offer the day's most important information and media, interviews and tweets that show up all over ADV and the rest of the net.

The Official Event Coverage thread - aka the firehose - will be moving at a brisk pace and will be hard to follow for all but the most desperate fans.

This thread will be locked, so that only moderators can post here. The mods will try to move the most informative posts here and we hope that the result is something everyone can follow.

Welcome, and a great Dakar to all - Racers, teams, lurkers and posters!

Flood 01-05-2013 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bluebull2007 (Post 20398999)
Hello Packmule, was wondering when you would show up :wave

I think now all we need is Brimstone and we are good to go.

Stage 1

Special start (local GMT -5) 11h40

Here is the route, not difficult to work out this time, thanks to the map provided by the organisation. Anticlockwise, in red, its more of a short endurance loop with a few dune crossings, its in a zone frequented by dune buggies and rails. I normally dont put this stuff out the day before but given the tail of the field are opening the course, I dont think they have the means to make this useful by this time...

In respect of getting a more precise picture out there of each special I think it is going to be very difficult this year.

Looks like they are going to screw the Google earth mapping nuts (like me), by duping everyone into where the Dakar special is not going to be running by publishing even more inaccurate maps. I have spent the past hour trying every which way to get some proper maps and distance tables off the official website, like IL SS FL etc - no can do, not even on the french site. Any bright sparks out there have a hotline to someone who can help us from the ASO? :dunno

What I have found are some basic maps, but none of the usual long sections with the distances...:cry Im hoping against hope that they actually publish them in some kind of live popup on the day..otherwise we will have a lot of F5ers twiddling thumbs...The maps are a joke with only the liaisons being more precisley shown but the specials with a only a very vague flamboyant line, which I do not believe is anything line the actual route except the general direction over the course of the route.

So you see what I mean look at Stage 2 & 3 below, both start from the same bivouac near Pisco

Im getting ahead of myself I know. :bluduh


Flood 01-05-2013 03:46 AM

Podium ceremony in Lima starts at 8:00 AM local time, the timed 13km prologue loop starts at 11:40 local:

Local time in Peru <iframe src="" frameborder="0" width="82" height="18"></iframe>

Peru TV broadcast will start at 7:00 (15 minutes from now):

New for 2013: The bike's prologue/SS1 times will e multiplied by a factor of 5, cars by factor 3 to ensure everyone goes full speed and no one holds back for a better starting position in SS2.

troy safari carpente 01-05-2013 07:42 AM

ADVRider ighlights from the Ceremonial start podium

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troy safari carpente 01-05-2013 07:45 AM


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Originally Posted by cyborg (Post 20401124)
F5 vid clip-to-ADV skills are at an even higher level this year. Many have been in training. Impressive.

The Feed for the Need! :pynd


troy safari carpente 01-05-2013 07:48 AM

More notable podium appearances...

Originally Posted by Bluebull2007 (Post 20401296)
Okay time to upload my screen shots that I was able to catch

Warren Strange #131 with Richard de Groot from NLD

#175 DAMDINKHORLOO BOLDBAATAR (MNG) - With a name like that how cany ou not follow him?? :D

#91 Glen Grundy RSA

#101 Ingo Waldschmidt Nam

#89 Brett Cummings

#29 on Coma's bike - Kurt Casselli


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troy safari carpente 01-05-2013 07:50 AM

ADV's Manny on the blurb...

Originally Posted by Mad Cow (Post 20401380)
Inmate Manuel gets a mention on the official Dakar site

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Flood 01-05-2013 10:38 AM

RG doesn't disappoint


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Flood 01-05-2013 10:38 AM


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Flood 01-05-2013 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Stagehand (Post 20402264)
In some minutes i will start the first special stage of Dakar!! Pretty tense, hot and immediately dunes!! This is me right now in This moment :



Flood 01-05-2013 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by scobes (Post 20402635)
Reverse grid, is it gonna make it harder for the top guns riding a rougher track to win prologue?


Originally Posted by troy safari carpente (Post 20402715)
In the sand, I'll reckon they'll just have a well defined MX track to follow... wider lines , keep it tapped... a dutch sand expert like Verhoven, or a rapid Husky pilot or even a WORCs racer like Caselli could take the best time... even if they're in amongst the last 20 or 30 or so...

The question is will they want to... tomorrows stage is going to be DECIDEDLY more navigation, longer and in that instance, picking a start spot for SS 2 somewhere around # 10 to fifteen, could see you pull an early five to 10 minute advantage by end of leg two, if you can pull of some stealthy navigation and passes out on the piste... like HogWild mentioned last night when we were debating the pro's and cons of the prologue/SS1 and the multiplication factor (5?) for SS1 stage times.


Flood 01-05-2013 11:08 AM

Kevin Muggleton checks in via Twitter:


Short day one down. Did well in special but busted 5 minute penalty for speeding during liaison . Dumb! Warm in the desert. The 3 day "Dakar Hell" starts first thing

SS1 is runnning in reverse order, with Chaleco posting a first best in front of Verhoeven an Chilean hotshot Quintanilla. The best are yet to come.

Flood 01-05-2013 11:30 AM

SS1 results: 1.López (CHL), 2.Verhoeven (NLD) , 3.Quintanilla (CHL), 4.Cabrera (CHL), 5. Despres (FR), 5.Casteu (FR).

If the x5 rule for the prologue stands, Despres (+13sec on track) will be 1'5" behind Chaleco in the overall standings.

Glad that prologue is over with no major dramas imagine you loose 10mins for a fuse - x3 +30min out of contention. .Good job #TeamHRC

HRC riders at SS1: Pizzolito 8th +21", Rodrigues 29th +53", Campbell 49th +1'19"

Flood 01-05-2013 11:32 AM

The cars are underway. The Red Bull buggies seem to work just fine so far:

Sainz leads, Nasser +10", Peterhansel (Mini) +34". Waiting for Gordon's Hummmbuggy.

Flood 01-05-2013 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Carlos M (Post 20403226)
So... Helder lost 40 secs to Despres, times 5 that's 3'20".

But he will be exiting to the track in the 29´th position, that's around 40 minutes behind the Chaleco and 28' behind Despres. If the course is not to tight and overtaking is not a problem that's not a bad place to be.

I have no idea how you manage to pace yourself in a 12 km clocked section, but I would think Helder's bet for today was to go just a bit slower. The 5x factor really messes all the tacticts! Interesting!!!!


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