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Morinite 01-08-2013 10:44 AM

Questions about the Ural
 
Hello folks, been a while since I've posted on Adv Rider, anyway;

I currently own and ride a 06 KLR 650. I love my bike but I've had it since it was new and wish to get something else. That being said I really like the Ural side car set up. We can get them in Canada and they run about 15K$ CDN new. (incl taxes & fully optioned) I think the concept of having a reverse gear and two wheel drive is just outstanding. I also want to ride with my little girl and dog in the side car (ATGATT of course). I also wish to do some bike camping and do some lite offroading (mostly quad trails).

After conducting a little bit of research, I found that the bike's top speed is only 90-95kph (for a 750cc??) and that the bike can have issues such as electical problems and fuel issues too. Also that that there are problems with fit and finish issues. So my questions to the group are;

1) Are these really problems or are they real world issues I should be concerned with?

2) Are there places out there that specialize (In North America) in these bikes to get the most out them without spending tons of cash?

3) Are there other side car set ups (ie hacks) that would work just as well?

Any input would be great, please excuse my ignorance about side cars and the like as I'm just a dude trying his best.

Cheers

crampfan 01-08-2013 11:05 AM

I own a 06 Gear -Up. My top speed is closer to 110k, although I find myself happily motoring about between 70 - 90kph
I did need to re-jet the carbs, but other than that no fuel problems at all. The electrical system has been reliable so far.
As for fit and finish, the only thing to fit is the trunk lid, and it fits fine. The finish is not shinny and seems to be staying on, so I would say acceptable.
Out of all the powered vehicles I've owned my Ural is in the top 5 for fun, and so far not really been any more or less reliable than anything else I've owned with 2-3 wheels. My Dog and grandkids love it too!

hanksmybuddy 01-08-2013 11:16 AM

Had my 2012 Gear Up for a little over two months now. Bike is a blast. Yea, there is some quirks to it but that is what makes it unique. I've had a lot of bikes over the years that I've bought and sold. I think I'll end up taking this one with me to the grave unless I were to replace it with another Ural. It's that much fun :rofl I've had no major problems and have not been babying it. I ride it off road and in the snow. I don't like to ride it much over 55 mph though. It's made for cruising around on backroads not bombing down the interstate. I don't have any regrets getting mine. If you want to be in a hurry to get somewhere don't get a Ural! :lol3

http://hanksmybuddy.smugmug.com/Othe...15.31.35-L.jpg

usgser 01-08-2013 11:22 AM

Buy from a "proven" reputable dealer so the outfit is set up correctly from day one. Then break it in according to the book, do the required servicing at the required intervals, ride/use it within it's design parameters and it'll be a solid reliable fun bike. Once broken in properly and maintained it'll run all day at 100 kph. If thats not fast enough for you you're looking at the wrong bike.

RidingDonkeys 01-08-2013 11:33 AM

There are threads for days about issues with Urals. Most are really subject to the eye of the beholder. Here are some things you need to know.

Electrical issues: Virtually nonexistent. Newer Urals don't have the old "grenade" alternator, so you don't have to worry. I don't recall the last year they used that alternator, but it has been a very long time, and it seems like you are looking new anyway. Any issues with a Ural electrical system can be easily troubleshot. Everything is easy access except the battery itself.

Top speed: Yep, they are slow. I can run my Ural at 100kph all day, but not much more. With a down hill slope and a tailwind, I've been known to see 120kph. To me, this is a positive. The Ural has taught me the fun of taking things slower. I rarely ride it on the highway, and see things now that I used to miss.

Other rigs: there is always the build your own rig route. Or, you can have DMC or Claude build you one with the tug of your choice. I have a Bonneville with a cargo hack that I love. It is faster than my Ural, better handling on the roads, and has much longer maintenance intervals that my Ural. All that said, if I had to pick one to travel around the world on, I'd choose the Ural hands down. It might be slower, but it is a simpler machine, and much more capable of going places.

At the end of the day, you really just have to do an honest assessment of who you are and what you want.

Sent from the voices in my head and transcribed by their drinking buddy...

Barnone 01-08-2013 11:46 AM

Newbie on the sidecar and the Ural here but so far so good. Had my 2012 Ural Yamal for only about a month with 800 km on her with no problems. Vary easy to service with lots of good DIY information here and on Soviet Steeds and Canadian Ural/Dnepr Riders .

I think what RidingDonkeys posted above is right on.

jaydmc 01-08-2013 12:37 PM

You could also go with a sidecar on your KLR or similar type bike and be in it for a lot less money. We ship sidecars all over for people to install the sidecar on thier own bikes. I have owned several KLR's with both our Enduro and our M72D sidecar on them.
Jay G
DMC sidecars
www.dmcsidecars.com
866-638-1793
jay@dmcsidecars.com

Montague 01-08-2013 12:48 PM

If the Ural suits you and you suit the Ural, it is a perfect match.

I have a 2006 and love it. It quickly replaced my Honda as both my and my passenger's choice of ride.

Slow and oh so different than a 2 wheel bike.

That is my top tip to you; read everything you can about driving a sidecar, take a class if you can (even if it means going some distance to do it) and treat driving the rig with great caution until you get the feel of it.

Asymmetrical layout and weight balance make for some interesting events in turns and cambered roads. Find out about that in very controlled circumstances, not unexpectedly while carrying those most dear to you as passenger.:huh

You may be quite a way from a dealer (don't know what the network is like in Western provinces) but if you have some mechanical skills or know someone who does, you can overcome most service and potential issues.

You can do limited off road with it (compared to an ATV) but it is in its element on back roads and mild trails.

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Originally Posted by Morinite (Post 20428126)
Hello folks, been a while since I've posted on Adv Rider, anyway;

I currently own and ride a 06 KLR 650. I love my bike but I've had it since it was new and wish to get something else. That being said I really like the Ural side car set up. We can get them in Canada and they run about 15K$ CDN new. (incl taxes & fully optioned) I think the concept of having a reverse gear and two wheel drive is just outstanding. I also want to ride with my little girl and dog in the side car (ATGATT of course). I also wish to do some bike camping and do some lite offroading (mostly quad trails).

After conducting a little bit of research, I found that the bike's top speed is only 90-95kph (for a 750cc??) and that the bike can have issues such as electical problems and fuel issues too. Also that that there are problems with fit and finish issues. So my questions to the group are;

1) Are these really problems or are they real world issues I should be concerned with?

2) Are there places out there that specialize (In North America) in these bikes to get the most out them without spending tons of cash?

3) Are there other side car set ups (ie hacks) that would work just as well?

Any input would be great, please excuse my ignorance about side cars and the like as I'm just a dude trying his best.

Cheers


Zojirushi 01-08-2013 02:18 PM

Do not buy one unless you are a competent wrench. With that said, I've put around 7000km on mine and love it. No issues and none anticipated. Cheers.

dbigkahunna 01-08-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zojirushi (Post 20429787)
Do not buy one unless you are a competent wrench. With that said, I've put around 7000km on mine and love it. No issues and none anticipated. Cheers.

Have a 2012 GU at almost 7000 km. The hardest thing to do so far is adjusting the valves and that is no big thing. Anything you want to do to your ride or maintenence is available on Soviet Steeds. Break it in right and then drive it like you stole it.
In Russia.
I cruse at 100kph and can push it it 120 but it no like to stay at that for too long.
If you do not like to talk to people, dont buy a Ural
If you want to go fast, do not buy a Ural.
If you are not comitted to doing the maintenance, do not buy a Ural.

madeouttaglass 01-08-2013 06:04 PM

17,000 trouble free KMs on my 2010 Gear Up. We love it.

steelhorseadv 01-08-2013 06:54 PM

Greetings,
Judy and I have two Urals with about 5000k on each. A "T" and a "Patrol".
Absolutely no negative issues. We do get a lot of UDF especially with Brutus (monkey dog) aboard. Seems like everybody smiles at ya, even the HD folks.
Very cool experience on the Urals.
So relax and enjoy!
steelhorse

Morinite 01-08-2013 09:03 PM

Hi everyone, thank you for your replies. The main reason i wanted to get at least 100 kph is because i live on the Canadian prairies and most everything that is paved here is as flat as tabletop. The highways can get pretty crazy with tailgaters and motorhomes, RV's etc..i need to pass at times to keep clear. Don't get me wrong slow is good for the fun factor. I still want to get a patrol with all those options and go for broke. I'm competant with wrenches as i am a KLR owner. My wife does support this purchase but i must sell the thumper first. Last question, are there any Ural clubs out there?

Thanks again

RidingDonkeys 01-09-2013 03:09 AM

There used to be a great club, huge too. It got broken up in 1991. :D:D:D:D:D

Sent from the voices in my head and transcribed by their drinking buddy...

MartyL 01-09-2013 06:08 AM

From what your saying it sounds like you want the ponies to go faster than 65 mph constantly. The Ural is not for you then. If constant speeds of 65mph or faster is a big concern go with Jays advice. If your ok with 60 mph with spurts of 65+ then a Ural will be fine. Check out SovietSteeds and do a search. Lots of info there.


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