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gslf 01-10-2013 06:46 AM

motorcycle transport
 
I want to take my bike to Europe this year. Does anyone have any experience shipping with Motorcycle Express from Canada to Germany?

ph0rk 01-10-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gslf (Post 20444618)
I want to take my bike to Europe this year. Does anyone have any experience shipping with Motorcycle Express from Canada to Germany?

I can't imagine this would be cheaper than renting or selling/buying/selling unless you're moving a $20,000 new motorcycle.

gslf 01-10-2013 08:28 AM

I'm staying 4-5weeks in fall 2013 and than in spring 2014. I considered renting (i know some dealers), but it will be very expensive too. Because of the long time over there,2 mounth, that's why i'm thinking of having my own bike over there.

modeselector 01-10-2013 08:37 AM

They make it pretty easy and part of that convenience comes at a cost. That said - you can ship out of Toronto, and be on the same flight as your bike for less than $3k (one way).

gslf 01-10-2013 08:52 AM

2200 can$, Calgary to Munich, for this year.

modeselector 01-10-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gslf (Post 20445728)
2200 can$, Calgary to Munich, for this year.

Seems reasonable. Where you headed?

dwayne 01-10-2013 10:53 AM

What about buying then selling? I doubt you would see $2000 depreciation in a month or two.

gslf 01-10-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by modeselector (Post 20446764)
Seems reasonable. Where you headed?

we (friend of mine in germany) are planing pyreenes in the fall and GB in spring.

gslf 01-10-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dwayne (Post 20446845)
What about buying then selling? I doubt you would see $2000 depreciation in a month or two.

Buying and selling and insurance is easier said than done.:deal
It is something to think about, but i do like my bike to come with me.

Nice RR on scotland. Last time i was there was 1992.

Pecha72 01-10-2013 11:45 AM

I havenīt sent across the Atlantic. But usually, when the distance is long enough, LCL (less than container load) seafreight is the cheapest way to send one single bike. There are a few things to remember, though: it is more laborous than letting some company, who offer this service do it for you, you may need to use a crate to pack the bike, and some points of entry to EU these days seem to demand a rather large bond, that is to be returned, when the bike leaves. Iīd avoid sending to those places. Costs at the receiving end are also something to be wary of, always, but especially when you freight by sea.

For reference, I payed almost exactly 700 euros total to send my DL650 by sea from Sydney to Helsinki (but it was 5 years ago). This even included the services of a freight agent in Oz. Distance must be longer than US West Coast to Europe. Costs at the receiving end were almost 200 euros of that 700, but it was still cheap. By air wouldīve definitely cost me double or triple.

I bet thereīs a LOT of sea freight going back and forth across the Atlantic all the time, so you should have plenty of options to choose from. (But Iīm not saying this is the easiest option, definitely not).

OneEffinName 01-10-2013 11:52 AM

I did the buy and sell thing for 2 months for a New Zealand trip. Cheapest way to go for sure, but it takes time out of your trip. Took me 2-3 days to buy and another 2-3 days to sell it. You need to make sure you have a good market for selling it or else you'll be hooped.

If you can buy ahead of your trip this will help. Perhaps also try to sell it ahead too.

But its just more logistics to deal with.


Best thing is to steal a bike when you get there, then just dump it when you are done.

gslf 01-10-2013 12:17 PM

Best thing is to steal a bike when you get there, then just dump it when you are done.[/QUOTE]

I'm looking over my shoulder a lot already, now i woudn't be looking ahead at all.

gslf 01-10-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pecha72 (Post 20447290)
I havenīt sent across the Atlantic. But usually, when the distance is long enough, LCL (less than container load) seafreight is the cheapest way to send one single bike. There are a few things to remember, though: it is more laborous than letting some company, who offer this service do it for you, you may need to use a crate to pack the bike, and some points of entry to EU these days seem to demand a rather large bond, that is to be returned, when the bike leaves. Iīd avoid sending to those places. Costs at the receiving end are also something to be wary of, always, but especially when you freight by sea.

For reference, I payed almost exactly 700 euros total to send my DL650 by sea from Sydney to Helsinki (but it was 5 years ago). This even included the services of a freight agent in Oz. Distance must be longer than US West Coast to Europe. Costs at the receiving end were almost 200 euros of that 700, but it was still cheap. By air wouldīve definitely cost me double or triple.

I bet thereīs a LOT of sea freight going back and forth across the Atlantic all the time, so you should have plenty of options to choose from. (But Iīm not saying this is the easiest option, definitely not).

I don't want to be without the bike for long time here or there, and as you said there are problems with sea freight too.

Pecha72 01-11-2013 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gslf (Post 20447584)
I don't want to be without the bike for long time here or there, and as you said there are problems with sea freight too.

Yes, there are possible pitfalls. But airfreight isnīt completely free of those, either. When someone (like Motorcycle Express) offers this kind of service, they handle the paperwork, but always do it for a fee, naturally. If you do it yourself, you might save a bit, no matter if you send by air or by sea. But then you have to do your homework really well (and for air, youīll need a Dangerous Goods-document from somebody, whoīs certified to issue it, so that one you canīt DIY). I think, however, that US <-> Europe is not the most complicated region in the world to send something.

eightup 01-11-2013 08:08 AM

I'm shipping my bike through Stefan Knopf at Knopf tours here in March. I believe quite a few other people have shipped through him before. He has been more than helpful over the phone and by email already. I am paying 1300 to go from Florida to Germany and that price includes all the custom fees and insurance. So I should just be able to show up and ride off which will be nice.

The container is shipping over in March if you want to see if theres room, just gotta get the bike to florida first.

http://www.knopftours.com/Web-Site/Welcome.html


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