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Cyath 01-19-2013 01:35 PM

Classic bonehead move...with bad results
 
I'm a moron, and I need help in undoing my mistake.
Let me bring you up to speed.
2010 990 Adventure with 16K trouble-free miles. Then last night, leaving from work, it wouldn't start. Cranks but wouldn't catch ignition. Ran the battery down trying to fire it up. Trailered it home.
Just got my CJ Designs fuel pump rebuild kit 2 days ago, so while the battery was being re-charged overnight, rebuilt and changed out all the fuel filters, which by the looks of it, it needed.

Here's where I fucked up. Anxious to see if it would fire up, I just slid the batt in with the poles reversed and of course when I tried to fire it up, the whole console was dead. No lights, nothing. Less than 30 seconds before I realized my mistake, but it was too late. I'm sure I fried something, but I can't find it.

Reinstalled the battery correctly, nothing. No lights, console dead. All the fuses in the storage box are intact.
The 30A, 40A and 25A fuses the down on the right hand side of the bike are all intact.
Are there any other fuses I'm missing?
Called my local dealer and they said to check the Starter Solenoid. I'm still searching through the forum and microfiche to find out where the hell it is.
Any other ideas?
Thanks

Cyath 01-19-2013 02:00 PM

Okay, found this http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...60&postcount=7 post which was very helpful. Turns out that there are two 30A fuses under the starter relay cover, one of which is nicely hidden on the back side of the cluster and I just barely saw the hint of green as I wedged my head in there. You cant reach it with your fingers, need a needle-nose plier to get it. Sure enough, that fuse was blown. Of course there's plenty of other spare fuses on the bike, but no 30's.

Cyath 01-19-2013 04:12 PM

Bummer update.
New 30A fuse. Bike cranks again, but doesn't fire up.
Fuel pump installed with CJ filters and O-ring kit.
Gonna pull the plugs to make sure they're getting juice.
Any ideas?
I'd appreciate any help.

Cyath 01-19-2013 04:35 PM

Nope. The plugs don't spark.
Now to chase that down. Back to the HOW.

ciedema 01-19-2013 04:45 PM

I wonder if the problem actually existed before the blowing of the fuses etc, ie when you cranked it flat in the first place.

Cyath 01-19-2013 04:51 PM

Yes, I think you're right. Never a problem starting before (other than with the known Shorai cold weather starting issues), but it now has a fully charged Yuasa.
The lost spark issue is probably what left me stranded and I went for the fuel pump since that seemed to be the most common issue in similar threads.

catalina38 01-19-2013 04:59 PM

Is it flashing an FI code? All wires plugged back together behind tank? Fuel line reconnected properly? Those seem to the most common and most likely.

Cyath 01-19-2013 05:15 PM

All good ideas catalina83.
No FI code, and everything is back and plugged in again, rechecked.
At least an FI code would give me a starting point.

DuctTape 01-19-2013 05:27 PM

Kickstand switch?

Cyath 01-19-2013 06:08 PM

Wouldn't the kickstand switch prevent the bike from cranking at all?
The starter cranks the engine, but I've confirmed that the plugs aren't getting a spark.

Gerg 01-19-2013 06:20 PM

Bonehead :evil

Hiya Mike :wave

No frickin idea what you need to do (cept maybe time for a beer).

Gerg

Wantajustride 01-19-2013 06:42 PM

Cyath

I aint no mechanic,,
Could it be the electronic ignition coil (stick coil for the 990?) to the spark plug? Maybe the connector to the stick coil has come loose? You have no spark to either cylinder? I suppose there would be 2 of them since it's a twin. Odds that both went bad at the same time would be very remote I'd think.
I have no idea how you'd check them to see if they were damaged on the reversed battery polarity :scratch

I'm not sure about the 990, but when I was pulling the spark plug on my 690 I removed the 2 wires from the ignition coil to make it easier to get the plug wire off. I could see how those wires/spade connectors could work their way loose. I know if my 690 won't start some day that would be one of the first things I'd check.

Hope you get it sorted.

WJR

Dogtown 01-19-2013 06:57 PM

no start?
 
You can hear the fuel pump pre-start noise? I know you said no spark but just curiouse...

I think it will crank with the kickstand switch....Kick stand switch cuts the spark not the power to the starter..

I did this for about an hour once.....I found that I had my on / off toggle off.... duhh!

HellSickle 01-19-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogtown (Post 20529657)
You can hear the fuel pump pre-start noise? I know you said no spark but just curiouse...

I think it will crank with the kickstand switch....Kick stand switch cuts the spark not the power to the starter..

I did this for about an hour once.....I found that I had my on / off toggle off.... duhh!

No, it also cuts out the starter. Verified this today.

OneDay 01-19-2013 08:30 PM

Have you checked the fuel petcocks? Sometimes it is the simplest things. I've done that mistake before.


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