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CoffeeBaron 02-04-2013 02:05 PM

Hondas frugal twin NC700C. Not so...
 
After spending the last couple of weeks trying to find the log in button, i'm finally getting a chance to throw the cat among the pidgeons so to speak.

I currently ride a 2000 VFR800Fi, and i'm very happy with it, but when you take your bike in to a main dealer and they happen to notice during a routine tyre fitment that it needs new headstock bearings....well, you've a few hours to play with.

This was how I happened to end up on an NC700C test ride. I covered around 150 miles on the bike, and set the trip meter for 126 of them just to get an idea of how little fuel I was going to use up on my gas sipping mule run.

40mpg was all it managed- i managed to drain the tank in 126 miles which with a cost of 139 pence/litre = 40mpg.

Now don't pin me down as one of the haters for this champion of utilitarian motorbike- I enjoyed my time on the bike. It's got a strangely eager engine that revs freely and spins up fast, feeling like it shoul have a redline of around 9k, not the low 6k. Handling was confident and stable, with an ease to tip and flick that brought to mind small japanese 400's like the SuperFour's fom honda.

But I think it would be interesting to hear from someone who hasn't experienced the messianic MPG figures being banded around the net.

Now I will admit I didn't ride with constraint- my journey contained long stints at 100mph, along with some city work and smooth flowing main roads with speeds ranging from 70-80mph. But I still expected to return 60ish mpg figures.

So I'd like to know if anyone else has ridden these bikes and experienced similar poor MPG. For reference I get 42mpg out of my VFR reliably, and that's with similar riding.

Meter Man 02-04-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoffeeBaron (Post 20649646)
After spending the last couple of weeks trying to find the log in button, i'm finally getting a chance to throw the cat among the pidgeons so to speak.

I currently ride a 2000 VFR800Fi, and i'm very happy with it, but when you take your bike in to a main dealer and they happen to notice during a routine tyre fitment that it needs new headstock bearings....well, you've a few hours to play with.

This was how I happened to end up on an NC700C test ride. I covered around 150 miles on the bike, and set the trip meter for 126 of them just to get an idea of how little fuel I was going to use up on my gas sipping mule run.

40mpg was all it managed- i managed to drain the tank in 126 miles which with a cost of 139 pence/litre = 40mpg.

Now don't pin me down as one of the haters for this champion of utilitarian motorbike- I enjoyed my time on the bike. It's got a strangely eager engine that revs freely and spins up fast, feeling like it shoul have a redline of around 9k, not the low 6k. Handling was confident and stable, with an ease to tip and flick that brought to mind small japanese 400's like the SuperFour's fom honda.

But I think it would be interesting to hear from someone who hasn't experienced the messianic MPG figures being banded around the net.

Now I will admit I didn't ride with constraint- my journey contained long stints at 100mph, along with some city work and smooth flowing main roads with speeds ranging from 70-80mph. But I still expected to return 60ish mpg figures.

So I'd like to know if anyone else has ridden these bikes and experienced similar poor MPG. For reference I get 42mpg out of my VFR reliably, and that's with similar riding.

Imperial or American Gallon?

oldenuf 02-04-2013 02:21 PM

test ride
 
Greetings,
Sounds like you have the answer to your question already. The NC is not the machine for the way you ride, and the VFR seems to be a good match for you.
Out here in rural USA and two lane roads, I get a steady 65 mpg with the fill-ups.

Art

Mobiker 02-04-2013 02:27 PM

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ph0rk 02-04-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoffeeBaron (Post 20649646)

Now I will admit I didn't ride with constraint- my journey contained long stints at 100mph, along with some city work and smooth flowing main roads with speeds ranging from 70-80mph. But I still expected to return 60ish mpg figures.

aggressive city work and stints of 100mph will drop mpg in the toilet on most efficient bikes, so it isn't much of a surprise.

dduelin 02-04-2013 02:27 PM

What's a NC700C?

Kafn8td 02-04-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dduelin (Post 20649801)
What's a NC700C?

It's the bike located right next to the "X" key.:D

dduelin 02-04-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kafn8td (Post 20649862)
It's the bike located right next to the "X" key.:D

Oh, that makes sense.

I gave the fellow some credibility until he claimed his VFR gets 42 mpg reliably riding 80 to 100 mph. I had a '99 VFR800FI and he's full of crap on that claim. It got low to mid 40's riding briskly but not when riding 45 mph over the limit.

To be fair, I have gotten figures as low as 45 mpg with the X but that was running 150 interstate miles at a steady 80 mph into a 20 mph headwind in temps under 45 degrees. I kind of expected the usual mid 60s mileage to be affected by an airspeed at or near 100 mph.

mrbreeze 02-04-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dduelin (Post 20650140)
Oh, that makes sense.

I gave the fellow some credibility until he claimed his VFR gets 42 mpg reliably riding 80 to 100 mph. I had a '99 VFR800FI and he's full of crap on that claim. It got low to mid 40's riding briskly but not when riding 45 mph over the limit.

To be fair, I have gotten figures as low as 45 mpg with the X but that was running 150 interstate miles at a steady 80 mph into a 20 mph headwind in temps under 45 degrees. I kind of expected the usual mid 60s mileage to be affected by an airspeed at or near 100 mph.


he's probably talking about imperial gallons, not US gallons

showkey 02-04-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dduelin (Post 20650140)
Oh, that makes sense.

I gave the fellow some credibility until he claimed his VFR gets 42 mpg reliably riding 80 to 100 mph. I had a '99 VFR800FI and he's full of crap on that claim. It got low to mid 40's riding briskly but not when riding 45 mph over the limit.

To be fair, I have gotten figures as low as 45 mpg with the X but that was running 150 interstate miles at a steady 80 mph into a 20 mph headwind in temps under 45 degrees. I kind of expected the usual mid 60s mileage to be affected by an airspeed at or near 100 mph.

+2 on the above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Something on the OP......................Does not pass the smell test.......................150 mile test drive????????? and long stints at 100 MPH............the bike is tapped out at 100. Sorry throwing the BS flag.

Bugz 02-04-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoffeeBaron (Post 20649646)
After spending the last couple of weeks trying to find the log in button, i'm finally getting a chance to throw the cat among the pidgeons so to speak.

I currently ride a 2000 VFR800Fi, and i'm very happy with it, but when you take your bike in to a main dealer and they happen to notice during a routine tyre fitment that it needs new headstock bearings....well, you've a few hours to play with.

This was how I happened to end up on an NC700C test ride. I covered around 150 miles on the bike, and set the trip meter for 126 of them just to get an idea of how little fuel I was going to use up on my gas sipping mule run.

40mpg was all it managed- i managed to drain the tank in 126 miles which with a cost of 139 pence/litre = 40mpg.

Now don't pin me down as one of the haters for this champion of utilitarian motorbike- I enjoyed my time on the bike. It's got a strangely eager engine that revs freely and spins up fast, feeling like it shoul have a redline of around 9k, not the low 6k. Handling was confident and stable, with an ease to tip and flick that brought to mind small japanese 400's like the SuperFour's fom honda.

But I think it would be interesting to hear from someone who hasn't experienced the messianic MPG figures being banded around the net.

Now I will admit I didn't ride with constraint- my journey contained long stints at 100mph, along with some city work and smooth flowing main roads with speeds ranging from 70-80mph. But I still expected to return 60ish mpg figures.

So I'd like to know if anyone else has ridden these bikes and experienced similar poor MPG. For reference I get 42mpg out of my VFR reliably, and that's with similar riding.

You sir, need to take a look into Brake specific fuel consumption.

And onther hint: The NC700 was designed to be designed as a motorbike to be operated at how 90% of the motorcyclist tend to drive. Which is below 6000 RPM and below 130 km/h.

Don't be suprised by running 100 mph (160 km/h) you're going to get pretty bad economy. Keep the NC below 75 mph and you'll be getting 60 - 75 MPG (US) depending on your cruising speed and driving habbits.

cbolling 02-04-2013 07:23 PM

You ran it at 100 mph for extended periods and still got 42 mpg. That sounds pretty good to me.:eek1

nachtflug 02-04-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoffeeBaron (Post 20649646)
stints at 100mph, along with some city work and smooth flowing main roads with speeds ranging from 70-80mph. But I still expected to return 60ish mpg figures.

don't buy any land in south florida without seeing it first. :kat

oldenuf 02-05-2013 12:05 AM

Nc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nachtflug (Post 20652158)
don't buy any land in south florida without seeing it first. :kat

And buying a demo machine

Art

ZZ-R Rider 02-05-2013 12:50 AM

Imp. Gallon mpg figures should be higher than US Gallon mpg figures as the Imperial Gallon is 20% larger than the US Gallon ...


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