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xcflyn 02-04-2013 09:48 PM

Fabrication 101
 
I was inspired to do a photo log of a recent job I did and was going to post it on the "wookie (rookie) wannabe" thread, but after looking at how many pictures and detail was in the project I did not want to hog up pages in that thread. I always find it interesting to read about what others here make at home and at their jobs and thought I would post this.
This job came to me early in the snow season from a guy who said- if you can fix it for under $4k, fix it- I am heading south. The 4k bench was set by the local dealer who said the replacement piece would cost him that ? Guess there was a lot of labor.
So here it starts - Load on to welding table so I can work at a height my old body can handle.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps731bd4d3.jpg
here you can see the ear for the lower control arm is snapped off
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psfa6a9dc2.jpg
A little sample of Gods country right outside the door- but there was work to do
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps77a6b480.jpg
Measure original bushing so I can make a dummy shaft to align the bores.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps488bb5a1.jpg
do a little of this
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps6a5766a6.jpg
on this
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psae93cf44.jpg
And get this half thou under so I can get it back out with out later without too much effort-
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psff66edf3.jpg
The reflection makes it hard to read- I did use a mic not just this caliper.
Looks like a winner - this will be split and sleeved later so I can collapse it to get it out after welding
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psc3cf5972.jpg
Here I went to cutting this and squaring it up so it will be easier to make the piece to weld in, I did a lot of it with a hand file. The cast aluminum is soft and easy to file and keeps me from getting to aggressive and removing too much, for the machining end of this project the time taken here is well spent-little time now saves a lot later (I hope)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps9a3dabcb.jpg


So there is my start. couple hours into it already at this point.

xcflyn 02-04-2013 10:14 PM

So on to the next-

locate a piece of 6061 to use, this looks good, maybe a little long ?
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...pse39d7626.jpg
Saw it a little smaller
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps8eefe934.jpg
head over to start turing that piece into little tiny shavings - not all of it , but most.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps3a8c9c9f.jpg
Set up to do the bore and counter bore - its sad when you can just keep cheating the cutter size to get a perfect bore- I rarely use a boring head anymore on a mill.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps36de0a34.jpg
cutting the first bore
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psa7deb7b0.jpg
Here is a good start. The back side there was already cut - this was a left over piece. The facing was way fast- finish at this point was not of concern
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psd2a9c0ce.jpg

Thats it for tonight. That big piece will get pretty small by the time I am done :evil

jar944 02-05-2013 05:30 AM

Nice shop, i'm having some serious tool envy looking at the pics.

For some reason 4k seems really high to me?

xcflyn 02-05-2013 06:02 AM

Taking shape
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps4cad01ba.jpg
Checking the progress, here you can see where I took the alignment tool and cut the middle section out and put a inside sleeve in, this way I can get it all out easier down the road.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps21484e0a.jpg
Ready for layout
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psae3b9f44.jpg
proceed to hacking on it. Its getting smaller but closer to finished
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps39eac5b9.jpg
Looking pretty good, not perfect
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps775bed38.jpg
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps693deb4f.jpg
A few boring steps skipped to get here. This was where I really second guess myself. I decided to install a couple small cap head bolts (8-32), there was no easy way to clamp this piece and I have no idea how much this will want to pull from welding, at this point I can only guesstimate. The cast is soft and I think the 6061 will weld good to it, I will use 4043 filler which has been my most common filler used on aluminum castings. The cap heads do add strength in regard to the pulling force, but the casting is soft and even with over 1" of threads It is not near what the bolt strength is. Then there is the fact I added "holes" to the new piece that do weaken it. My thought is that most of the force on this other then when hitting a tree is actually pulling on it, and the force will be more in the center of the new cap then the sides. Either way the decision (right or wrong) was to go with two stainless 8-32's (had to order bolts). I used steel cap heads for now so I could make sure the drilling,reaming,and tapping were all good,plus keep moving forward.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psc3a5b544.jpg
Everything cleaned up, fit, and chamfered for welding.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps45778e14.jpg
Done welded,cooled down
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psff612a47.jpg
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps3faa23a0.jpg
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps0aa046fb.jpg
You can see the fit was good, I snapped the side of the crappy bushing off popping it out during the test fit. A little file work and the new bolts and thats that.

xcflyn 02-05-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jar944 (Post 20653827)
Nice shop, i'm having some serious tool envy looking at the pics.

For some reason 4k seems really high to me?

I agree, I think half that was in labor. What I was told was that a lot of this is riveted together so changing this piece is a lot of drilling. But then again how hard is it to drill an aluminum rivet ? In many cases its probably easier then trying to hold the nut while removing a bolt. Sad times, the Yamaha dealer charges like $95 an hour: I charge $50. Then again, 9 out of 10 homes seem to have a sled out front here, 1 out of 1000 need something fabricated ( and there is only 200 homes in town :cry) I have to be cheap.

Langanobob 02-05-2013 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xcflyn (Post 20654034)
Sad times, the Yamaha dealer charges like $95 an hour: I charge $50. Then again, 9 out of 10 homes seem to have a sled out front, 1 out of 1000 need something fabricated ( and there is only 200 homes in town :cry) I have to be cheap.

I like your reasoning. Great thread, thanks for taking the time to take pictures and post them.

- Bob

kirkster70 02-05-2013 02:50 PM

Very nice shop! You have LOTS of neat-o play toys!

Nice fab work, too! No surprise there. Thanks for taking the time to post and explain everything you are doing.

What does the blue dye do? Act like a guide coat to see how much you're taking off?

xcflyn 02-05-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkster70 (Post 20657681)
Very nice shop! You have LOTS of neat-o play toys!

Nice fab work, too! No surprise there. Thanks for taking the time to post and explain everything you are doing.

What does the blue dye do? Act like a guide coat to see how much you're taking off?

Blue dye is layout fluid, couple uses for it, its nice for touching a tool off and in this case it was used so I could get the rough outline of where I needed to cut, lay fluid and a scribe are pretty handy and can be surprisingly accurate.

Today I made a high end tortilla cooker
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps4543aca6.jpg

Not really - it was a drop from this
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...psc467219c.jpg

rough cut here- machining on them starts tomorrow- thats the fun part :evil
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps94b4a54e.jpg

kirkster70 02-06-2013 02:47 PM

Have you made it to $3995 yet? :evil


:freaky

xcflyn 02-06-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkster70 (Post 20665135)
Have you made it to $3995 yet? :evil


:freaky

Nope , ended up a $525.00 Like it to be a lot more, but what goes around comes around, hopefully it will come back around next time he uses his sled for a chainsaw :huh

Laconic 02-07-2013 11:41 AM

Nice work and a cool attitude.

kirkster70 02-07-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcflyn (Post 20667458)
Nope , ended up a $525.00 Like it to be a lot more, but what goes around comes around, hopefully it will come back around next time he uses his sled for a chainsaw :huh

You're a good man, Dan-o!

I agree 100%! Treat people right and it's amazing how many nice things happen for you.

You have a very nice shop! It looks like a beautiful place to live for an outdoorsman. :clap

xcflyn 02-08-2013 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkster70 (Post 20675136)
You're a good man, Dan-o!

I agree 100%! Treat people right and it's amazing how many nice things happen for you.

You have a very nice shop! It looks like a beautiful place to live for an outdoorsman. :clap

Ya its a pretty amazing place to live for sure. The fly fishing, hunting, and of course motorcycling ! I will show you around when you come visit :thumb
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...n/DSC01703.jpg

here was that plate getting a little finish work.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps9ea91539.jpg

And my project that had working till 4:00 am- someone probably knows what these go to.
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps30a09de5.jpg

Laconic 02-08-2013 09:14 AM

A hand brake lever for something quick?

kirkster70 02-08-2013 05:45 PM

WOW!! Very nice all around! Scenery, craftsmanship and all!

Do you do anodization as well?


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