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creighta 05-01-2013 06:16 PM

what about the little ones
 
we started a businesses that is a mile from our house. i have couple mopeds, but think i need something faster to get between the two places. the ride is one mile, two steep hills, country backroad leading to my 1/2 mile gravel drive.

i see lots of "what is the best maxi scoot" threads and "how big do i need" not much on the sub150 arena. going to look at something cheap and used, definitely 150cc or less (have a majesty already) that will set outside most of the time... .ideas? bonus points if my 11yr old can treat it like a dirt bike.

CaseyJones 05-01-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by creighta (Post 21312498)
we started a businesses that is a mile from our house. i have couple mopeds, but think i need something faster to get between the two places. the ride is one mile, two steep hills, country backroad leading to my 1/2 mile gravel drive.

i see lots of "what is the best maxi scoot" threads and "how big do i need" not much on the sub150 arena. going to look at something cheap and used, definitely 150cc or less (have a majesty already) that will set outside most of the time... .ideas? bonus points if my 11yr old can treat it like a dirt bike.

Seriously? Look at second-hand shops and Craigslist to find an old, 1970s-era minibike. Gas mileage won't be a factor; and with a generic Briggs & Stratton engine in there, it'll do just fine with no warmup. And your kid can't break it unless he jumps it or deliberately runs it without oil.

Outside of that...I have no clue. A Ruckus would do you, but Hondas aren't cheap, and even though it looks tough, it's a precision motor vehicle.

A Chinese Ruckus clone would provide cheap, but would break all by itself. No need to have the kid do it.

A dirt bike would be tougher, but will cost more. Perhaps a used dirtbike? I don't know specific models. But then you lose storage space.

"Scooter" and "tough" don't generally go together.

You mention "fast" - that your mopeds aren't fast enough. How fast is "fast"? 150cc gets you about 45-50 mph, unless it's a PCX. A 250 gets you about 60. A Ruckus, is limited to 35-40 mph.

MiniBike 05-01-2013 07:07 PM

I'd be looking at the Honda CT Series (90-110cc).

fullmetalscooter 05-01-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniBike (Post 21312963)
I'd be looking at the Honda CT Series (90-110cc).

I agee with him. Cheap at 500 to 1500 bucks . You could find a elite 125, 150 . Yamaha Riva 180, 200 for that price. Elite 80 are cheap to. Most of the Ct have a low and high range gears. Top out at 45 miles per hour. Dr atv sell parts. TIres are 20 bucks or less . If you can find a 1981 ct 110 onwards I think are 12 volt and have no points to screw with. The Ct can be treated as a off road bike . One guy used one to climb up 21 000 foot high mountain road last year. Ct honda have gone every where hard core BMW GS riders have gone. If the engine burns out you can also buy a china engine that bolts right up for 300 to 400 bucks.
Honda 50cc ruckus is good to. Total ruckus forum for more info

351 power 05-02-2013 03:06 AM

vino 125

Dabears 05-02-2013 04:57 AM

A quick check of my local Atlanta Craigslist today had:
Kymco Super 8 (150) - $1400
Kymco People 150 - $1000
Kymco Agility 125 - $1000
Kymco People 150 - $1100

Disclaimer- I do NOT own a Kymco. However, if I was looking for a bit more usability without breaking the bank I'd jump on any of these (after comparing condition, miles, and features I needed) and be done with it.

I'd take a SYM HD200 any day of the week over the above, but they are pretty rare here for under $2k.

I wouldn't go smaller, simply because you noted you had several large hills to deal with, and a decently powered scooter can do a whole lot more than just provide a 1 mile commute.

Or you could look for a small dual sport like a Yamaha tw200 or whatever if you want something that has some off road capability. There are tons of great options, you just have to pick what your priorities are and hunt down the 2 wheeler to fit them. Have fun with your search!

Scratch33 05-02-2013 05:00 AM

Sachs Madass 125. They're the schizz.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6...dae421c4_b.jpg

kantuckid 05-02-2013 05:13 AM

The most bang for your initial investment buck is going to be an older MC such as a Honda 125,175, or a small thumper sitting by the road with a for sale sign on it, etc..

wannabe1 05-02-2013 05:49 AM

Zuma 50, Zuma 125, Genuine Buddy 125, Kymco Agility 125, Vino 50 and 125. I have seen them all out there for $1200 or less if you look around and be patient and not afraid to lowball. The zuma 125 will cost you a little more.
About the 11 y/o, just get him a dirt bike and he won't be tempted to ride the roads as much.

zookiemike 05-02-2013 06:50 AM

Vespa\/ :evil:deal

deezildennis 05-02-2013 07:15 AM

Get on trailbuddy.com and look into the skyteam Gorilla z50 replica they have. It's 125cc so its good for 50mph and they can be had cheap. They are very reliable , can be tagged and parts are abundant. Another option is one of the Piranaha branded trail 70 replicas with the 125cc which would be a tad easier for an adult to ride.

Both of these are fine options regardless of the naysayers, and most little scooter shops can order them in and service them.

From your initial post a scooter is not what you want.

creighta 05-02-2013 01:41 PM

thought about the skyteam, i have been watching the thread on here trying to get an idea of durability on those.

i have worked on an eton 50cc and also did carb work on a zuma 50, but wass wanting other's opinions on these little bikes my experience is mostly with bigger bikes.

vino would be appropriate, it is a winery. Anyone have experience wityh a tao tao? seem to be a lot of them about.

Forde 05-03-2013 04:05 AM

They are cheap chinese shit

climbamt 05-03-2013 06:05 AM

I have a Kymco People 50. It is a 2 stroke and has lots of power for a 50. I can hit 45 on the flats and it has a fair amount of power on hills. They sell for about $1000 used in my area. Seems like they have decent parts availability. You can add a buddy seat for 2up riding. They have larger wheels and handle well.

The only negative, if you have large feet there is not a lot of room for feet on the floorboard.

Cheers,

~Gd

deezildennis 05-03-2013 07:54 AM

You arent going to be able to let the kids use any of the traditional scooters suggested as a dirt bike. None of them are made for that.

You need to look into a small motorbike.


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