Originally Posted by seraph
Swingarm-mounted engines, guys. That's the biggest thing separating scooters from motorcycles.
Floorboards vs. pegs, displacement, manual vs. auto, all of these exist across all categories and aren't really reliable measures. It's the swingarm-mounted engine.
The Z50 isn't a scooter because it's engine/transmission aren't part of the swingarm (or the entirety of it). It's a very small motorcycle. But it's okay, we scooterists accept small motorcycles, too!
Sorry, have to post this!
True, most have swingarm mounted engines also. But the BURGMAN 650 doesn't and it's considered a scooter!
And yea, I'll try and get a good photo of my Elite 150 to upload. We should try and get more photos coming and make another thread for this disagreement!