Originally Posted by DoctorIt
I think actually the other way around - DA in the past was the only group where you had trim (which now has also been eliminated). At one point in 1999 I actually ended up with an Ultegra kit on a cylocross bike, and it definitely did NOT have trim. Especially after switching to smaller chainrings, it would always rub. I ended up just ditching the cable and running a single ring on a chain guide up front.
I've got five or six year old Ultegra and I can trim the front.