Also i just whipped out the tape again to get specific. The largest part of my waist is the hips around the largest part of the butt, an inch or 2 below where you would wear jeans normally. It turned out to be 46" with the tape tight. 46.5" with the tape on the loose side. Again, round butt syndrome.
Im not wide at all, kinda of average i think. I just need a larger/deeper waist than i "should have" to accommodate the round cheeks.
I always wear a 36 or 38" jean, but i could always use a bit more room behind the back pockets if you know what im getting at.
I hope this helps describe the situation a bit more and thanks for putting up with me Anthony.