Thanks that makes it alot clearer as to what I have to do . . almost closed a deal on a DT 175 complete for 75 $ but I was the 3rd contestant instead of being caller 1. Ahh well I will keep scouring the used ads and waiting, in the mean time I can get metal connectors and odds and ends. If all else fails I can make my own swingarm and axle mount . I guess all the welding stuff the navy taught me(structural, TIG MIG Aluminum,uphill.) can be used in the outside world...