Originally Posted by ADVNCW
Thanks for taking the time to compile that. Pretty much describes it. I try to follow whether or not some KTMs or the new models are better. Maybe some day, but then the price. In spite of the bs banter, it is true that Honda makes some high-performance motorcycles similar to KTM, but better for reliability and maintenenance.
In spite all of the things we don't like, Honda makes great motorcycles. Some models made just one or two years are seen running for 20-30 years, some have a cult following.
Very unfortunate that the latest offering 250L is 317 lbs, not a great dual sport at all, a mall cruiser or dirt road rider.
Yep, the XR400R resurrected on new frame and suspension and FI, or my dream slightly smaller 300, would be a great dual sport that one could trail ride on real terrain.
If you keep spewing this tripe this thread can go on forever. You have anecdotal evidence at best.
Tell me what "great high-performance bikes" Honda has produced for the dual sport/enduro market in the last 10 years.
And I would put up KTMs RFS series of bikes against any Honda built for reliability and maintenance. Keep in mind that I've actually owned
both an XRR and a KTM RFS bike. Pay attention, because this is the important part.....actual empirical evidence.
You do know that dual sport bikes require regular maintenance, right? There is no bike you can just flog.
That "list" you are parading around is due to one thing only...the amount of riders that are on KTMs now. Period.