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Old 11-17-2012, 12:30 AM   #656
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Originally Posted by Eldezento View Post
reading all your ride-reports it seems you like river-crossings a lot, especially without a bridge or ferry. i canīt imagine riding for hours with wet clothes and wet body. Do you have special protection against water, and how long does it take to become dry again?
Yes I enjoy the river crossings. I think its a great part of adventure motorcycling. There is no special protection from water. An earlier question I hadnt answered yet asked if I use waterproof boots of socks. There are no waterproof off road boots. Sidi make an "Adventure" boot using goretex, but its much shorter than an off road boot. much less protection and support. Its more of a touring boot thats capitalising on the "Adventure" name. Any waterproof boots or waterproof socks have a very strict limitation that makes them completely ineffective once the water level is higher than the boot (about 15 inches / 40 cm) ... thats not a lot. Waterproof boots and socks take 20 times longer to dry out than normal boots and socks. So for a day like this, waterproof socks or boots would be a liability not a help.

Note, I do take and wear sealskinz, waterproof socks, on a journey. They are great when its cold and raining, for keeping your feet warm and dry. They are also useful in boggy conditions. But for 2 feet (60cm) and deeper river crossings in good weather, stick with normal stuff. If its really cold (sometimes on Road of Bones for example) I will wear waterproof socks. Your feet still get soaking wet on the first river you wade across, but ... in those cold rainy conditions the boots and socks would not dry out all day anyway. And the sealskinz use rubber as the waterproof layer ... one of the other great properties of rubber, is that its a good insulator. So when you do go wading thru the icy rivers, the water on the inside of the sock is warm, insulated against the icy water flowing thru your boots. So you see there is a time for waterproof socks ... but for warm summers day water crossings like we had in the Urals, they are not ideal.

If its hot and dry (we have a crossing in Kazakhstan coming up in the coming weeks, when it was +35C (95F) and dry air ... you are totally dry in less than an hour.

Originally Posted by Eldezento View Post
When you go in deeper water, makes the minor weight of the bike in the water riding easier or even more complicated, apart from slippery or stony grounds?
The buoyancy effect on the bike in deeper water hasnt struck me, in all my crossings, as that big a factor - tho I suspect it lowers traction due to the lower net downward force of the bike limiting the traction you can get. The current is the main challenge. The force of flowing water acting on a bike is far greater than people imagine. The deeper the water, the impact of current on the bike is increased not just by multiples, but by factors. As for stony crossings ... I prefer them to muddy crossings. Stony crossings usually mean clear water, so you can see the river bed (especially if you are wearing polarised sunglasses - I always take a pair specifically for river crossings). Muddy crossings can not only be sticky and boggy, but you can not see the depth ahead of you ... you are riding totally blind.
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