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Old 11-21-2012, 09:13 AM   #18301
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My 5'7", 170lb self LOVES my 600lb+ sport-touring FJR pig. Arguably the best bike I have ever owned (from sportbikes to a cruiser).

I, and most of my ST friends do not like the new VFR because it brings little to the table that is not already out there for less. Besides who the hell builds an ST and has the bags as OPTIONS!

Originally Posted by doug s. View Post
i agree that h-d is all about marketing, and they have it down. whether they can successfully extend it to newer riders, is still an open question, and much debated amongst motorcyclists. (and marketing guys.)

i don't like h-d the company simply cuz it eff'd erik buell. i don't like the h-d bikes cuz they're about as exciting to ride as a toyota camry is to drive. (imo, of course.) i have nothing against h-d riders or owners, and i don't think they ride like twats. most i have seen ride like old ladies, but at least most know to keep outta the fast lane. so, i got no problem w/that. and i got no problem w/whatever reason it is they wanna own and/or ride these bikes. that's their deal, not mine.

re: the vfr1200, as someone who owned the original '83 interceptor, and who has a relative w/a more modern vfr, i can tell you the reason that honda can't give away the new 1200vfr has nothing to do w/being able to describe who a honda rider is. (whatever that means.) it has everything to do with it being a bike that was built for a market that does not exist. the vfr1200 is a big fat 600lb pig. touring guys want something more touring oriented, sport guys want something more sport oriented, and no sport-touring guys want a big fat 600lb motorcycle. my vfr800 owning relative is a big guy about 6'-4", 240, (not fat); he checked out the new 1200vfr and said his 1200v-strom is a much better ride...


doug s.
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