In the context of much of this discussion:
So a (Honda) heavy KTM adventure 390 is all good then? But any kind of Honda is not ok unless it is a KTM then? Got it.
Perhaps they could paint a CRF450X orange add some lights increase the price to $12k, and sell a lot to a certain demographic? I can buy a red plated CRF450X locally for around $8k. As well, I am certain that they know how to make that Honda run right, have the correct parts, know exactly the + and minus for that bike. That results from a pool of engineering compared to a drop, and wherewithal to actually test stuff well and correct deficiencies before selling it at an inflated price to emotive suckers who want to think they are bad
Interesting how it sounds like some would just accept problems because it is a KTM, but disapprove any Honda because it is not a KTM?
And I am still trying to understand that some seem to say that paying a lot more makes it better? Wow, suckers, it does not. I do not see that the return for the investment is there at all!