My two cents worth. First Gear. I have one of the original Kilimanjaro jackets and Honda HT pants (built by First Gear). They are as good as you can get. The zipper messed up in my jacket, I called First Gear and they replaced it FREE. This jacket is about 7 years old. They even paid the shipping. Also anything Honda markets is built by someone else to their specs. I recently lost my father and while cleaning out his garage I found my HondaLine gloves I bought in approximately 1976. Recently I wore them back to back with my Alpinestars and they keep my hands just as warm.