Originally Posted by team ftb
Mike. I'd do this over the phone but I'm in Asia currently (but back to the states in a few weeks for holiday) so here it goes in the thread. After reading through the full thread I can say one thing with certainty, Amanlikemile has got to be one of the most thorough, responsive, and helpful vendors I've seen. Sadly something not seen all too often in this day and age. Fantastic job Mike
Thank you for the response on my questions. I'm beginning to understand the mounting procedure. Does anyone have a picture showing a closeup of the mount and how the bag fastens to the frame? Am I having to undo webbing from around the frame every time I mount and dismount the bags? Or is a hook simply hooked into a webbing daisy chain ladder that stays with the bike when removed?
Are there any pics detailing the 15L bags? I searched the thread and website but found nothing that detail how the bag operates. I assume there is a waterproof liner inside the outside shell is this correct? If so then are both the liner and shell roll top closures? Or is the bag itself waterproof requiring only one roll top closure to access inside the bag? Traveltoad mentioned it is easier to access items in this bag set-up than the GL, the Kreiga bag shape is definitely more user friendly for packing but not so sure on accessing. I keep all my heavy items (tools for tires and wrenching, tubes, etc.) in the very bottom of the GL to keep the weight low. When needing to access tools in the GL I simply loosen the compression buckle, rotate both zippers to where my tool stash is, spread the zippers about 10 inches and pull what I need out (tools are packed next to the zipper for easy access). When finished shove it back in the hole. Worst case is i have to create a bit of a hole with my hands when putting it back but its only soft items above the tools (clothes, hammock) so creating the hole is a non issue. If accessing my tools in the bottom of the Kreiga bag I have to undo one (or two?) roll top closures, then empty the bag to access items on the bottom, then load the bag up again, and refasten the roll top closure(s). Seems a bit longer in my eyes, but not a deal breaker.
Pic from the Kreiga website
Are the unused rack loops available to fasten my tools in a separate bag? If so can the rear most rack loops be utilized to fasten both the Overlander and a US 5 or 10 Kreiga bag to stash my tools?
Mike you mentioned that the WR-R picture has the bags mounted waaay forward. In the pic above is that as far back as I can mount the bags safely without worry about them contacting the exhaust, bike dependent of course (ill be on a KTM 500)? The buckle on the seat is right where I put my derrière for slab droning
. My trips are not only an overnighter where I could deal with it better but usually up to a couple weeks once a month, with the longest trip one month and that buckle location seems a major drawback for the well being of my arse
Thanks again for the diligence.
Regarding your question about “how the bag fastens to the frame?”: The daisy chain loop wraps around the frame just like the GL. It utilizes a hook (and daisy chain) instead of the cam buckle. I had the GL on my Berg and KTM EXC wrapped them around the frame in the same spot. I wrap the Kreiga around the Berg frame (had sold the KTM) in the same spot as the GL. Just like the GL – the webbing is removed when removing the bags. I’m sure something could be rigged up so you would not need to loop it around the frame.
Regarding your question about the waterproof liner set up: Imagine the bag as a typical roll top closure. There is a inner liner (white, waterproof) and the outer shell. The white liner and the outer shell are only attached at the top – with Velcro (360 deg.). To close, you roll them together. I can relate to the scenario about removing tools from the GL. I had mine placed there was well. With the Kreiga I put tools/spareparts/kitchen/tent in one side and removed the liner completely as I was not concerned about waterproofing those items. I just dug in the bag. In the other side I placed my food at the bottom of the bag outside of the white liner.
Regarding you question about stashing US5/US10 on the back – that is what I do. I had this set up with the GL as well.
I’ll see if I can grab some photos.
I can’t say that one bag would be better than the other to dig stuff out of. I find the Kreiga easier to pack and find stuff. However, this is just my opinion. Just like backpacking – everyone has their preference on how to do things. And a somewhat related disclosure…I moved away from the GL not because it was not waterproof, but because I never was happy with how it packed and how high it stuck above the seat. i.e. I may be biased in answering your question.