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Old 02-24-2013, 04:05 PM   #7
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I'm trying to find the successor to my WRR. If Yamaha had come out with a WR450R... I'd be all over that! There really isn't anything wrong with the WRR, just a few things I would like to improve upon with my next bike.
Hey Nick,
Having ridden a WR450 all through Baja (with lots of highway in the mix) I can assure you it's NOT a fun road bike. If Yamaha made the 450 street legal they would probably gear it higher for highway ... which the 450F needs badly. It's revving hard at 55 MPH.

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1.) Interstate manners. I feel the WRR is tapped out cruising at 75-80mph. With any luggage at all it feels like I am nearly pegging the throttle just to maintain that speed. I feel like something with a bit bigger displacement would alleviate the issue.
Yep, I know the feeling. (see above)

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2.) Torque. After riding my WRR elusively for quite a while, I hopped on my KLR650 that I also owned at that time. I realized that I missed having that little extra power. I think #1 and #2 go hand in hand.
Torque is nice. I'd be looking at something in the 650 class. Since you have money burning a hole in your pocket and are impressed with the Euro offerings ...
I'd test ride the Husky Terra. Initial reports are good ... but its future is questionable.

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3.) Kick Starter. After suffering a dead battery one day on my WRR after I left the heated grips going... I had a really hard time push starting it. I eventually had to go get my car and jump start it. I've searched and it seems KTM is the only brand still putting a kick starter on their new bikes.
Push starting off road (like in sand or Mud) is tough. You will have to be more vigilant with Battery maintenance ... and learn to bump start a bike properly. I learned at age 14 where I learned to bump AJS and BSA 650 singles, old Bultaco's and my TR-6 Race bike. I'm only 5'7" and can Bump Start a fully loaded R1200GS. It's Technique, not technical. Size and strength can help .... but a big Spase will never be able to do it. Practice.
PS: The DR650 can be easily bump started with a DEAD battery ... and it will charge right back up. Japanese electrics.

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4.) Pedigree. KTM, BMW, Husqvarna, Ducati... they all have that name that kind of oozes class. Well at least in my mind. Of course these all come with a price tag. I have a bit of money burning a hole in my pocket so I don't mind spending that extra money when it comes to getting a better product.
Once again, test ride the Husky Terra ... but also see if you can get aboard a DR650. It may surprise you. Smooth at 75/80 mph. I've done many 400 mile days, back to back to back. With a few upgrades handles Desert, Two track and even deep sand just fine. Really OK on long highway rides, even fully loaded at 12,000 ft. Been there, done that.

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5.) After market support. I plan on turning this bike into a very nicely farkled adventure tourer that isn't a overweight street bike.
The DR650 has vast aftermarket support. If the Terra sticks around (???) it will have good support too. But right now ... no one knows for sure. IMO, it is the future.

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6.) Low maintenance. I plan on using this bike for long distance. TAT/Alaska/Whatever. I want to explore while I am still young (27/Single/No Kids) and don't want to have to worry about having to rebuild the motor every few thousand miles.
The Loncin, China, Husky version motor in the Husky Terra is new, but based on an old platform. Should be reliable, easy maintenance. My DR650 has done 50,000 HARD miles ... including several Mexico and Cross country trips, fully loaded and is truly no brainer maintenance. It's nearly maintenance free really.

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7.) Light weight. I'm not a very big guy. I'm 5'9 and 160lbs with a 31-32" inseam. I can easily pick up the WRR off the ground repetitively. I'm not so sure I can pick up my Tiger 800xc more than once. I remember getting stuck on a trail and having to pick up my 2009 KLR650 out of the mud. That sucked. Heavy bikes do not inspire confidence in me.
Any fully loaded ADV bike will be tough to pick up in mud. Get help. Back damage is forever. Pick your trails carefully or ride with friends .... up your riding skills. Riding in the AMA Enduro and Hare and Hound series helped me become a better rider. I'd bet at your age you could become a Giant on the bike in a year or two. Do it ... you WILL get better.

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So far I have looked at the KTM 500EXC and the KTM 690 Enduro R. Unfortunately the 690 does not have a kick starter and the 500EXC seems to have very frequent maintenance intervals.
The KTM 500 EXC is, by most accounts, the very best street legal dirt bike on the market today. Nothing comes close. But it's expensive ... AND it's a RACE BIKE. Consider that in your choice and ask current owners how many put 20K miles a year on their 500. The 690 is a more mild, de-tuned motor .... but seems to have several nagging issues. I would not choose either for true LD riding. Just my humble opinion.

Have fun and consider yourself lucky to have money burning a hole in your pocket.

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